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Post by Fayt » Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:34 pm

Maybe its just me but is someone is willing to give up their unborn child to scientific research does anyone at all really have a say in whether that is right or wrong?

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Post by mith » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:40 pm

No one is saying unborn child, it's aborted embryos.
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Post by goat » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:27 pm

Honestly... Man! It wasn't me! It was the potatoe! I believe that reality is gone, but on a more serious note i beleieve that the research can be highly beneficial and should be encouaged. How ever it should only occur when the circumstances permit it with out harming a potential life.

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Post by thank.darwin » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:03 pm

That's were it gets hard... how do you define potential life?
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Post by mith » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:41 pm

If cloning works, everything is potential life because you can implant egg cells with nucleuses from almost any cell.
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Post by thank.darwin » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:13 pm

Please explain "everything is potential life" - Are you sure about that or are you speculating?
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Post by mith » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:12 am

Sry, I meant everything as in cells. If cloning works, any cell with a nucleus should be able to be cloned into a full organism.
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Post by Fayt » Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:34 pm

Firstly let me say that I was wrong in refering to an aborted fetus as an unborn child. Secondly I think that sophmore Sciencebeliever was right when he said that fetus's were similer to plants because if everything is potential life then it should be respected, but only as much as we respect a plant
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Post by mith » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:43 pm

We don't really respect plants, we eat them.
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Post by Fayt » Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:21 pm

In some religions it is costumary to thank a plant or the "Mother Earth" before harvesting or processing the plant(s). It is similar to what Native Americans did before consuming an animal but in this day and age "Plant Respect" is only practiced in very small cirlces in very remote areas.
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Post by mith » Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:37 pm

What does that have to do with stem cell research?
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Shocking Ignorance On Biology...

Post by BayAreaGuy » Sun Feb 27, 2005 5:58 pm

I find it difficult to take any of these posts seriously as most of you seem unable to use terms correctly or spell. How can a supposed "pre-med student," and so many of you like-minded users, be so interested in biology and related sciences, yet so woefully unable to express yourselves? I mean, what am I to do with an opinion from someone who cannot even spell "upon"?

Even worse, you're throwing around words like "embryo" and "fetus" as if they're the same thing. If you don't know the stages of reproductive development any better than that, you shouldn't even be posting in a Yahoo group, let alone on a site called "Biology-Online.org"! It's Zygote (conception to 2 weeks), Embryo (2 weeks to 2 months), and Fetus (2 months to birth). And if you think that's picking nits, then you're worse off than I thought. Proposing stem-cell harvesting during the zygotic stage is very different from proposing it during the embryonic or fetal stages. Zygotes don't have brains, for one thing!

So, my advice is that you at least learn the material a Biology 101 textbook before posting your ramblings about something as complex as Stem Cell Research. You people are trying to produce a laser of opinion with the friction of your two-sticks-rubbing-together knowledge. That's a dangerous thing when you consider its possible effect on public opinion.

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