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Need help identifying these bones

Post by concerned » Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:20 pm

Can someone please help me identify these bones? Found them while hunting. Cops say Deer bones, I don't believe them.
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Post by Darby » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:52 am

I'm no expert, but my initial reaction was deer bones as well...

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Post by concerned » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:02 pm

Have you looked at the leg bones of a deer? From what I could tell, these are certainly NOT deer leg bones. The only animal I found that resembles these bones, aside from human, is bear.

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Post by biohazard » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:24 am

Indeed, that does not look like a bone of your regular four-legged animal, since they usually have elongated radius and ulna, and shortened humerus (and the same applies for the hind legs as well). Unfortunately the palm is missing and without that my expertise is not enough to tell what mammal would possess this kind of limb.

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Post by falcons1988 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:12 pm

Could it be a human leg bone? It may not be recent. You are right not trust police on 'biological' information due to reliability, best bet may be to ask your doctor.
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Re: Need help identifying these bones

Post by falcons1988 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:30 pm

The best way, may be to convince the police it is human, and get them to conduct a DNA test.

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Post by JackBean » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:40 pm

I'm afraid that even if police considered it as human bones, they would perform only microsatellite test, not whole genome sequencing, which would you need to identify the species (or at least partial sequencing).
http://www.biolib.cz/en/main/

Cis or trans? That's what matters.

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Post by biohazard » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:28 am

falcons1988 wrote:Could it be a human leg bone? It may not be recent. You are right not trust police on 'biological' information due to reliability, best bet may be to ask your doctor.
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Actually now as you said that, it does look bit like a leg, since in the arm the radius and ulna are much more closer in size than what are the tibia and fibula in the shin, and there is quite apparent neck and head visible on the upper part of the bone, which I think is missing in the arm.

However, I think the neck and head of the femur (if that even is a femur) are heavier or more prominent at least in adult humans - is there any indication of the size of that bone?

So, it still looks a bit odd for a human bone... but at least it is not a deer bone unless I'm completely mistaken!

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Post by falcons1988 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:14 pm

It may not be an adult human, it could be archaeological?
In what context were these bones found, where they found as in the picture? What dating evidence is there?

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Re: Need help identifying these bones

Post by efralin » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:48 pm

I need help identifying these bones. I discovered then off the coast of the Rappahannock in Whitestone VA.
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Post by JackBean » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:46 pm

Seems like skeleton of some rather smaller tetrapod mammal.
http://www.biolib.cz/en/main/

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