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Please help me about pinocytosis

Post by ehmonkey » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:16 am

Hello everyone
Before asking the question, I want to tell you that I'm a 10th grade Vietnamese student, so I'm not sure whether I use the correct English or not. But I'll try to make it as clear as possible.
So, here's the question: "In pinocytosis, how can cells choose which substance is necessary for them, when there are many other subtances around, to take in?"
It's a question in my textbook. But I've read on Wiki that cells take in every substance around them in pinocytosis, which means they don't have to choose. So I'm very confused.
Please help me, I can wait for the answer because this question is for Biological special class so I don't have to do it (I'm in the ordinary class :"> I've asked my friend who is a student in that special class but she said she didn't know). But I still want to know the answer.
Again, sorry for the bad English :)

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Post by JackBean » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:28 am

I would blame receptors on the cell surface :)
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Post by ehmonkey » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:38 am

@JackBean: Thank you ^^
So you mean that the receptors will know if a substance is unnecessary, and they won't allow it to come in?
And... um... did I use the right English? Did I make any mistake in spelling or grammar or something? :">

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Post by JackBean » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:03 am

I would say it rather the other way. Receptors bind molecules, which they recognise (that is why they are there, isn't it?) and get it in.
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Re: Please help me about pinocytosis

Post by Mona09506 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:17 pm

Hello, substances that are supposed to get into the cell are able to cause pinocytosis. Receptors than become active and substances, together with receptors goes in.

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Post by Crucible » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:06 pm

JackBean wrote:I would say it rather the other way. Receptors bind molecules, which they recognise (that is why they are there, isn't it?) and get it in.
Isn't that Endocytosis ?

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Re: Please help me about pinocytosis

Post by Mona09506 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:17 pm

Pinocytosis is a type of endocitosis.
Endocytosis can be FAGOCYTOSIS (when cell "EAT" something) and PINOCYTOSIS (when cell "DRINK" something) - when cell is taking needed substances with a 'fluid drop'. And, visualy, you can recognize it by long, very thin invagination.

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Post by JackBean » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:36 pm

as Mona said, pinocytosis is kind of endocytosis. However, I was wrong with the receptors, since pinocytosis is nonspecific.
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Re: Please help me about pinocytosis

Post by Crucible » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:58 am

'Right, Jack. And I don't know why I wrote that ( endocytosis) earlier. A bit tired this morning ! It's "Receptor-Mediated Endocytosis". That process.

So what the thread author asked is how the cell, in pinocytosis, differentiates the stuff it needs from what it does not. And it seems that description best suits "Receptor-Mediated Endocytosis".
In pinocytosis, how can cells choose which substance is necessary for them, when there are many other subtances around, to take in?"
It's a question in my textbook. But I've read on Wiki that cells take in every substance around them in pinocytosis, which means they don't have to choose. So I'm very confused.


So the textbook sounds confusing.

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Post by JackBean » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:42 am

Why should be textbook confusing? The answer is simply that it doesn't choose.
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Post by Crucible » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:56 am

JackBean wrote:Why should be textbook confusing? The answer is simply that it doesn't choose.
Jack, it could be considered misleading. In the question, there is what seems to be a premise, given.
In pinocytosis, how can cells choose...

So the correct answer
1/ would be similar to what you answered, ( but a bit more explicit as to the circumstance involved , which is "during pinocytosis"), to reply to the query words "cell" and "can choose"

2/ would reflect ( would be a literal answer to ) "how it can" .


Therefore, a problem arises; although the "truth" is revealed in reply to part (1/); "during pinocytosis the cell cannot choose..." , that answer does not respond to part (2/), which is response to "how".

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Post by JackBean » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:17 am

are you going to argue about simple vocabularies again? :roll:

how? In no way.
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