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Post by befour » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:13 am


Naturally occurring toxins, such as mycotoxins, marine biotoxins, cyanogenic glycosides and toxins occurring in poisonous mushrooms, periodically cause severe intoxications. Mycotoxins, such as aflatoxin and ochratoxin A, are found at measurable levels in many staple foods; the health implications of long-term exposure of such toxins are poorly understood.
Unconventional agents such as the agent causing bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE, or "mad cow disease"), is associated with variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob (vCJD) Disease in humans. Consumption of bovine products containing brain tissue is the most likely route for transmission of the agent to humans.
Persistant Organic Pollutants (POPs) are compounds that accumulate in the environment and the human body. Known examples are Dioxins and PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls). Dioxins are unwanted byproducts of some industrial processes and waste incineration. Exposure to POPs may result in a wide variety of adverse effects in humans.
Metals: such as lead and mercury, cause neurological damage in infants and children. Exposure to cadmium can also cause kidney damage, usually seen in the elderly. These (and POPs) may contaminate food through pollution of air, water and soil.

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Post by London » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:59 am


Great find; what do you think? This is getting so confusing is it not? In fact I have been reading about mycotoxins a lot this afternoon.

Here something I found saved in my Documents from May and wanted to pass it along as well- especially since the The Tam is posting a lot about biofilms...

Communications blackout? Do N-acylhomoserine-lactone-degrading enzymes have any role in quorum sensing?

A number of bacteria, including some significant pathogens, utilize N-acylhomoserine lactones (AHLs) as quorum sensing signals. There is considerable interest in the therapeutic potential of disrupting quorum sensing. Recently, a number of bacteria have been identified which are capable of enzymic inactivation of AHLs. These enzymes show considerable promise as ‘quenchers' of quorum sensing. However, the assumption that the natural function of these enzymes is to disrupt or modulate quorum sensing has yet to be established. This review surveys the progress made to date in this field and examines what implications these findings have for our understanding of the role played by these enzymes in vivo.

For the full article; click the hyperlink


I think it is time we looked into the Microsatellites!!! Particularly the M13
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Post by WLR » Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:21 am

Sabrina, You are not alone with this terrible disease as there are many of us out here looking for answers too. I have tried many things to rid my home and body of these little pests and did not find success until I stopped going to traditional doctors and found a doctor that uses natural alternative methods of treatment. I am proud to announce that I am 90% better than I was just 3 weeks ago and I'm hoping to completely remove all symptoms in the next 2-3 months of treatment. I'm not sure if the treatment will completely rid my body of the parasites but I will be happy for now just to be rid of the symptoms which are devastating. The treatment process is lengthy but it does seem to work so just let me know if you are interested and I will get it to you.


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Post by RANDY » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:51 am

Hi all.

The skin cream is still working.

It is amazing how deep the lesions really go into the skin when you have had them as long as I have and how the thrill of watching the layers peel off one day at a time makes you feel like you FINALLY have control over your life.

But I am still giving it three if you decide to purchase before that...before my final not yell at me if something is not right.

I can just tell you what I see and feel and I am very happy. Day 6..I think.

The one lesion I had on my wrist ..below the pinky..that was almost to my bone...two days of the cream..a giant black spot came out and whala! Lesions is healing. I had that for two months.

The little new guy that popped up on my left almost gone..already!

So I am happy.

If you go to the site he has an ordering page. I think with shipping and all from Germany it is about $40.00 cuz shipping from Germany is expensive but you can order in volume too and save shipping costs.

Rumble through the German site to get to the DSP part and the order info is there. He uses Paypal and you only have to have a Pay-Pal account or a credit card to order.

If you do..please let me know your results. You have to follow the instructions he will mail you to make sure you apply according to what they have figured out.

I will be done translating the site by next weekend.
It is a task!

Also if you have a web page..I told him that it would be a good idea if you have a link on your page and every time someone ordered from the link on your page you could get a few dollars and a finders fee.

I hope he does that.

If you know doctors willing to help..have them sign up for free on my site:

We need a network of physicians. and health care professionals wiling to help us.


Contact me: 434-974-7128
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Post by Nadas Moksha » Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:58 am

sorry for the FAKE HYPE post. it seems humor has been the only effective treatment.
this will not cure but may give more direct insight into what we are dealing with

nadas has found that a mixture of naptha, benzene,toluene, ethyl acetate, and Stoddard solvents are effective, and i have tried them all in various combos but i believe there is a static effect with the stoddard(ready mixed surface cleaner from AKZO NOBEL M600) may even try Chervon

here lay the direct path to the bio agent who will be soon alive and kicking in 45 min.
1. a small glass salt /pepper bottle w/lid (or standard orange medicine bottle will do)
2. fill half with solvent
3. collect motile fillament, 5 or 6 ,be sure to get a few hostile ones(blacklight makes this part easy) just enough to see free float
4. add small mount distilled water (almost one half of solvent)
5. watch the filiments gather at bottom forming a film...!
6. fun part ....get a can of your fav energy drink... add a few drops
7. wait...... film activates sections one stationary magnetic like an icecube. the other motile gathering.....

9. you golem maker you got hermese thrice greatest turning his grave...
observe under various lighting conditioncs ..... keep notes

any solvent will do but stoddard has quicker reanimation
and a strong polar oposite with the entity in question what ever it may be...

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Post by Skytroll » Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:00 pm


Love the humor, def needed, here.

The Who and the UN, needs to be scrutinized.
they are using surveillance, will monitor, using pasteurization, irradiation (microwaves) and fermentation? the assessing and Codex Alimentarius takes away all natural products.

Fermentation is the problem, once things start to ferment, then it does to whatever we eat, fermenting enzymes.
The Who has caused more problems: doctors without borders, have ascertained this.

It is so sad that the Who is only monitoring, assessing etc. What have they been doing all this time this stuff has been adapting to our foods and us?
No concrete action by WHO being taken, it is so sad.
However, they are now telling us of the altered bacteria damage.


Still wading through Wolbachia, it is in many insects.
Is in Oncho worm, and many others.
The Wasp most likely lays the offending eggs on the wheat in storage.
More reading required of posted links. Will get back after some reading.

Create the problem, assess, and then create the solution.

And yes, admittance that quorem sensing is going on, but, I also believe that signal sensing of proteins is also.

Interestingly, that article talks of folding of proteins.
When that happens, then a prion form is involved also.

On a molecular basis.

The Plan by one side to fix the released novel organism problem done by the other side? or to just create another battle for humans?

1. Adaptation/Natural Selection by way of novel organisms introduced into the environment, not the natural state as it is, but the altered state, that shows how evolution works, and ecological effects are paramount, to control?

2. New technology to fix the problem or to enhance the problem? Or to take technology to its highest level? to invent, to use technology that has been hidden, to control?

One done in plain sight, the other hiding even more.

Okay, so we are looking at the health aspects.
Just trying to find the fiber, which probably is us.

Are we not natural?

What an onslaught the human body is taking. And why? I think Rachel Carson is crying.


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Post by befour » Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:06 pm

Hi London,

In addition to the magnetic/ copper bracelets that I purchased at w..mart, husband made me a bracelet from PURE copper wire that he stripped from some heavy electrical wire, that we had left-over from a recent upgrade of our household"s wiring.

I really believe that it is helping!!


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Post by Skytroll » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:22 pm


If that works, copper is supposed to eat up algae.
They used it on roofs to remove moss, algae and fungi.

Also it is supposed to work if in large tubes to counteract the effects of chemtrail spraying. Is used in Africa. ... tegoryID=9

I use magnetic bracelets but not the copper.


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Post by London » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:53 pm


Hi, thanks, I think I will just go buy out Home Depot's copper supply today....I will make tons of jewelry, hair ornaments, might even do a belly piercing with it, LOL haha....going to get one today....I will let you know....


The wolbachia basically transfers to what is called a polydnavirus in insects. Now I think in humans that would be the polymavirus which, my friend is BAD come the CJ disease and mad cow i.e., leuko-encephalopathy> which is really a v. bad aids w/ dementia that there is absolutely no cure for....but , I could be very wrong and this is what I am hoping....

Hey, have you heard of Bornea Disease?

check this lil bit out>> prob. from the stanford guys going over and foraging thru the rain forest while it still remains> How frickin stupid, I swear I just have a gut feeling that damn college is behind this...His name is David in the microbiology Dept. (can't think of his last name...) ... t=Abstract

Then, look at the psycho , weird crap the CDC has out called MADNESS note* it has wolbachia in it.....

Also, skytroll, keep in mind, it is (wolbachia and the wasp) molecular....
fako organisms....(at least I think)

Okay, Off to home depot.....Hey, I could get that stuff that Nadas was talking about, yeah? If not, I will get some damn dynamite... :)


i JUST HAVE THIS GUT FEELING THAT THE STREP IS GOING TO PLAY A BIGGER ROLE than we think...did you know they say it is even behind OCD's?

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Post by befour » Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:35 pm

Hi London, Sky & all,

I'm glad you brought up OCD!!!

Why do you suppose that so many of us with this disease also suffer from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder??? I mean....what's up with that??

Anyone have any ideas??


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Post by Skytroll » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:46 pm

Wolbachia only transmitted vertically, hereditarially.

It says from that link: that.....

......The entomologists were wrong. This sort of sexual behavior in wasps and wood lice isn’t normal. It’s a disease, an infectious disease. Entomologists leapt to the wrong conclusion because of something they couldn’t see, something hidden inside the wasps and the wood lice. Wolbachia pipientis, a bacterium and obligate intracellular parasite, lives in the ovaries and testes of many insect species. As many as 16% of insects (some 2 to 5 million species) may be infected with one strain or another of Wolbachia. But the bacterium is only transmitted vertically (mother to offspring), so only female insects can transmit the infection. To limit the number of male offspring, Wolbachia has developed ways to manipulate its host’s sex life.

Wolbachia interferes with the production and function of hormones and changes infected male wood lice into female wood lice. In other insects, the bacterium induces a state of “cytoplasmic incompatibility” between males and females, which prevents males and females from any productive mating. And in some wasps, it has completely eliminated males from the species. For these wasps to survive, the females must resort to parthenogenesis, and under these conditions, they can produce only female offspring. Wolbachia isn’t the only bacterium capable of this sort of sex selection by elimination of males or alteration of male behavior. At least five other species of bacteria similarly eliminate males from insect species to accelerate bacterial transmission in the wombs of females.

Males turned into females, entire species of sexually inept insects, species of insects in which males have disappeared altogether—all this aberrant behavior, all of these “behavioral disorders,” can be cured with antibiotics, eliminated completely by any of a number of drugs that destroy bacteria. Yes, but that’s ants and wood lice. Bugs. Mammals are a lot more complex than ants and wood lice, aren’t they? "


BUTTTTTTTTTTTT, the article you had yesterday,

No lateral/horizontal gene transfer took place?


and this says that Wolbachia is an endosymbiont of all these things listed.

Note that mansonella streptocera is not on there but the ozzardi and perstans is. ... e=1&unlock

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An endosymbiont is any organism that lives within the body or cells of another organism, i.e. forming an endosymbiosis (Greek: endo = inner, sym = together and biosis = living). Examples are nitrogen-fixing bacteria (called rhizobia) which live in root nodules on legume roots, single-celled algae inside reef-building corals, and bacterial endosymbionts inside several insect species. Many other examples of endosymbiosis exist. It is estimated that beneficial endosymbionts provide essential nutrients to about 10%–15% of insects.

Many instances of endosymbiosis are obligate, that is neither the endosymbiont nor the host can survive without the other, such as gutless marine worms which get nutrition from their endosymbiotic bacteria. However, not all endosymbioses are obligate. Also, some endosymbioses can be harmful to either of the organisms involved. See symbiosis for further discussion of this issue.

It is generally agreed that certain organelles of the eukaryotic cell, especially mitochondria and chloroplasts, originated as bacterial endosymbionts. This theory is called the endosymbiotic theory, confirmed and popularized by Lynn Margulis.

What a crazy study this is: ... t=Abstract

DOP would fit right in there, wouldn't it?

Good links there, thanks


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Post by Nadas Moksha » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:50 pm

reaninimator, from fiber to phagocyte?
ok guys ETHER...
any automobile starter fluid (after non polar organic additives are removed)

so just fill a half a cup starter fluid other half distilled water .... separate with eyedropper and keep volitile. will work..

.Bacteriophage replication and reactivation in stationary phase hosts. Gallimore,W.H., Burgess,J.M., Kokjohn,T.A. (2002). Research Signpost 6:467-476. Bacteriophage dynamics in stationary phase or stressed bacterial hosts are poorly understood. Using one-step growth experiments we have demonstrated that stationary phase does not constitute an absolute block to phage multiplication, although latent periods are extended and burst sizes decreased substantially compared to exponential phase infections. Using infectious center assays to quantify lysogen responses to DNA damage revealed that while there was a range of sensitivity to ultraviolet (UV) radiation, no prophages were induced by sunlight exposure. Comparing the capacity of exponential phase and stationary phase cells to resist UV irradiation and reactivate UV-damaged phage revealed that cells maintained in the stationary phase at the time of infection expressed significantly higher levels of DNA repair. Photoreactivation experiments in stationary phase hosts revealed that light-mediated reversal of phage DNA damage definitely occurred in stationary phase bacterial hosts. Our experiments demonstrate that many bacteriophages multiply actively.

# Investigations of the marine lysogenic bacterium H24. I. General description of the phage-host system. Moebus,K. (1997). Mar. Ecol. Prog. Ser. 148:217-228. General features of the marine lysogenic bacterium H24 are described. The bacterial strain was isolated from a sample of North Sea water in 1978. After several consecutive transfers on seawater agar slants spontaneous plaque-formation was observed in 1981. When H24 was grown in bouillon the cultures were found to contain plaque forming units (PFU) at any number between zero and 10-9 ml-1, indicating that spontaneous plaque formation was due to mutational events. Cultures with the highest contents of PFU hardly differed in turbidity from cultures lacking PFU. These observations are ascribed to pseudolysogeny, i.e. immunity of cells against the phage present. When a cured derivative, H24(L10), became available the wild-type phage vphi-H24 residing in H24 was isolated and shown to re-lysogenize H24(L10). It also enabled differentiation between virulent and non-virulent mutants. Mutants of vphi-H24 were found to induce pseudolysogeny. Upon streaking on nutrient agar, material from colonies of pseudolysogenized cells produced various kinds of colonies representing clones of fully sensitive cells, of pseudolysogenized cells, or of mixtures of both. This and accompanying papers report the first intensive studies of a marine lysogenic bacterium. [TOP OF PAGE]

# Growth and phage resistance of Anabaena sp. strain PCC 7120 in the presence of cyanophage AN-15. Mole,R., Meredith,D., Adams,D.G. (1997). Journal of Applied Phycology [J. Appl. Phycol. ] 9:339-345. The cyanophage AN-15 was found to have a requirement for either 1 mM calcium or 1 mM magnesium ions to maintain viral stability, whereas 1 mM calcium ions alone were essential for the infection process to proceed in Anabaena sp. strain PCC 7120. Following prolonged incubation, phage-resistant cells were detected at a high frequency (approximately 10 super(-5)) in lysates, as either renewed growth in liquid cultures, or as colonies in confluently lysed lawns. Southern hybridisation failed to detect AN-15 DNA in any of the resistant strains, implying that resistance is unlikely to be due to the presence of temperate phages. A high rate of spontaneous mutation is therefore likely to be the cause of resistance. Two classes of resistant cells were identified; those in which AN-15 failed to attach to host cells, and those in which attachment occurred, but subsequent replication was defective. However, it was possible to overcome phage resistance by the isolation of spontaneous mutants of AN-15, capable of infecting phage-resistant cells. These observations imply that if cyanophages are to be assessed as a means of controlling cyanobacterial blooms in freshwater bodies, the ionic (notably calcium) concentration of the water must be considered, together with the possible need to employ alternative cyanophage strains if resistance to the original one arises.

wait ?

Genomic sequence and evolution of marine cyanophage P60: a new insight on lytic and lysogenic phages. Chen,F., Lu,J. (2002). Appl. Environ. Microbiol. 68:2589-2594. The genome of cyanophage P60, a lytic virus which infects marine Synechococcus WH7803, was completely sequenced. The P60 genome contained 47,872 bp with 80 potential open reading frames that were mostly similar to the genes found in lytic phages like T7, fYeO3-12, and SIO1. The DNA replication system, consisting of primase-helicase and DNA polymerase, appeared to be more conserved in podoviruses than in siphoviruses and myoviruses, suggesting that DNA replication genes could be the critical elements for lytic phages. Strikingly high sequence similarities in the regions coding for nucleotide metabolism were found between cyanophage P60 and marine unicellular cyanobacteria. [TOP OF PAGE]

i dont know if the research data is worth the price ..... . . . .

DAMN IT !!!!

i my have only accelerated a few phasess of of non optical migratory micro phase to macro phage .. took a torch to the first reanimated phages and began to notice symmetry upon the surface from the oxidative stress....that pattern moves!!. from temporal to transmigratory!!!!!! DAMN and stero isometris dulication..... .like a spore print in the fungas kingdom. spawn into inorgaonic polymers on any ..... .. . like tam said "bio film"
Bacteriophage Ecology Group – Aquatic Virus References

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