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Post by in_the_uk » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:34 pm

John, I have the impression that you do not suffer from Morgellons and so you have never experienced fibres appear from out of your skin.

I could wear red clothes all day long. I could then take a bath and wash my hair so that I am free of any red fibres. If I then stand naked in my back garden and rub vinegar or tea tree oil onto the palms of my hands then red fibres will appear from under the skin.

My neighbours may also appear to ask me to go inside but I don't think that that is a symptom of morgellons.

Helen

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Post by John Kern » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:35 pm

in_the_uk wrote:He also thinks that the fibres, or some kind of dust, hides in paper tissues and towels.

Helen


That's interesting - did you read the "Fibers are Everywhere" article?

http://morgellonswatch.blogspot.com/200 ... where.html

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Post by in_the_uk » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:44 pm

Thank you so much for directing me to that site John. What are you trying to say?

Helen

UPDATE:
John,

"What are they? Kleenex tissue, stained with blood."
http://morgellonswatch.blogspot.com/

Shouldn't there be a question mark after blood? I am sure that there should be if you are making a balanced and unbiased comment on your web page. I hope that you check back on this page to see my post when I change back to red.
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Post by Linn » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:51 pm

ukguystatement of what the disease is
estimate of number of people affected / geographic location
symptoms
snippets of writings from different sources (as long as they are in agreement)
e.g. Dr Wymore, Cliff M, TamTam, Dr Matthews, Dr Harvey(?), Ginger
Savely etc.
Mention of the PubMed article.


thanx :)

but I dont think anyone is game to provide information
so far no e-mails
perhaps Sky, you? and Helen, and others can set up the
web site first, and I can work from a survey set up
from there, that will be a lot of data to review.

sky I sent you a pm but I think it disappeared.
:?:
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Post by John Kern » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:51 pm

in_the_uk wrote:John, I have the impression that you do not suffer from Morgellons and so you have never experienced fibres appear from out of your skin.


That's true, but I'm very interested in the phenomena, and I was just trying to narrow down the possibilities.

in_the_uk wrote:I could wear red clothes all day long. I could then take a bath and wash my hair so that I am free of any red fibres. If I then stand naked in my back garden and rub vinegar or tea tree oil onto the palms of my hands then red fibres will appear from under the skin.

My neighbours may also appear to ask me to go inside but I don't think that that is a symptom of morgellons.
Helen


:lol: Funny!

I misunderstood you earlier - I though you meant that the fibers would be red WHILE you were wearing red. So it happens for some time after as well? Even after showers? Does it happen consistently - I mean if you did it now, would you get fibers?

-John

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Post by John Kern » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:55 pm

in_the_uk wrote:Thank you so much for directing me to that site John. What are you trying to say?

Helen


Well, you said you friend though there were fibers or dust in paper towels. Since there clearly are - I was wondering if he meant that:

1) The ordinary fibers in paper towels were causing problems
2) There were additional pathogenic fibers in the paper towels
3) He did not realize paper towels were made from fibers

I'm not trying to be funny, just did not understand what your fried was saying.

- John.

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Post by in_the_uk » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:59 pm

Linn wrote:
but I dont think anyone is game to provide information
so far no e-mails


Lynne, I am going to send you my experience and regimen and how it is working out. I have already typed it all out because it is in a previous posting. I just have to put it together and say how it is going. Just been a bit busy trwaling the internet for something new.

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Post by in_the_uk » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:05 am

John, the answer is: 2.

The layer of skin that came off my friend's foot looked so like tissue paper that he believes that it is tissue paper. I do not have any answer to that because I have only seen a photo. I will not tell him that it is not tissue paper because he can work it out. He is living the life and walking the walk and he will put his snippets together to make sense of it.

"While this does not explain the dark fibers in other photos, it's an obvious and simple explanation for the "Objects emerging from a lesion", and Morgellons.org should no longer be claiming that these are somehow unusual,unidentified, hyphae-like structures. They look exactly like Kleenex fibers, soaked in blood. That's probably what they are."
http://morgellonswatch.blogspot.com/

Is this your work John?

Helen

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Post by Linn » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:05 am

John,
thankyou for your interest.
I am very happy to have an objective
person involved to this discussion.

I did mention something about fibers before.
I think it is important to determine the normal fibers from the disease fibers.
These fibers may be a product of the bacteria,
and are pushed out of the skin.
or they may be
some form of nematode or other organism.

also all of the people here have posted lots and lots :shock:
of info on possible identity.
(with excellent scientific research to back it up)


I am also trying to remember an organism which produces
black fibers. It is in the back of my head but |I can not remember.
I had come across articles previously years ago.
London can you help?
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Post by in_the_uk » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:11 am

Linn wrote:I am also trying to remember an organism which produces
black fibers. It is in the back of my head but |I can not remember.
I had come across articles previously years ago.
London can you help?


Lynne, an organism that produces black fibres?! What a goldmine!

Helen

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Post by Linn » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:11 am

Lynne, I am going to send you my experience and regimen and how it is working out. I have already typed it all out because it is in a previous posting. I just have to put it together and say how it is going. Just been a bit busy trwaling the internet for something new.


k but you might just be the only responder.

I am only offering to do this because:

I truely want to find the answer to PREVENT the
spread and identify some common denominators
And find regimens that will really work.
also there may be aspects, affecting people differently.
and I currently have some time to donate to
this work which I know will be exhausting.
"How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these".

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Post by Linn » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:13 am

it may be from botany maybe???
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