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can you identify this animal?

Post by pantuffle » Sun May 23, 2010 9:44 pm

I went to a quarry today and saw this animal in the water. it came to the surface of the water to breath. Does anyone know what this animal is? we were thinking it could be a lizard, but after watching it walking on land we don't think it is.
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Post by Darby » Mon May 24, 2010 1:56 am

Maybe with some more details -

- where is the quarry?

- how big were they?

- did they have colors or markings not obvious in the photo?

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Post by biohazard » Mon May 24, 2010 10:32 am

The tail looks flattened from the side, suggesting that it is some aquatic animal (as opposed to, say, some terrestial lizard just swimmign around). I would go for some kind of an amphibian, such as newt. However, based on the shadow made by the creature it appears to lack webbing in its feet, which is suppose should be present in newts.

Anyway, I'm fairly certain it is an amphibian of some sort. Like Darby said, some additional information might be useful. For example, when on land did its skin appear "slimy" or "dry or scaly"? :)

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Post by Hobble » Wed May 26, 2010 9:31 pm

How was it walking on land to cause you to rethink your "lizard" hypothesis?

It is almost undoubtedly an amphibian, but that is obviously not specific enough :P

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Post by pantuffle » Wed May 26, 2010 10:08 pm

thanks for your replies to our question :) the quarry is in the peak district in england. we assume the animals were between 5-20 cm in length, their skin was slimy when they were on land and had a leopard-like pattern. the larger the animals were the darker their skin. they didn't have webbing in their feeds (can't upload more pictures unfortunately) and their tail was flattened

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Post by Darby » Thu May 27, 2010 1:43 am

Sounds like newts, which usually do not have webbed feet.

Try this, about halfway down - the smooth newt-

http://www.overthegardengate.net/wildlife/frogs.asp

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Post by biohazard » Thu May 27, 2010 7:32 am

Darby wrote:Sounds like newts, which usually do not have webbed feet.


Yeah, you are correct. My bad!

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Post by JackBean » Thu May 27, 2010 7:48 am

I don't know, but the body looks quite wide...
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Cis or trans? That's what matters.

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Post by biohazard » Thu May 27, 2010 8:53 am

JackBean wrote:I don't know, but the body looks quite wide...


Yeah i does, but maybe it is well-fed :)

Or maybe it is carrying spawn or something. But I really cannot imagine any other animal than newt that this could be. Salamanders are stocky for sure, but that does not look like one and the pic was taken in England anyway...

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Re: can you identify this animal?

Post by pantuffle » Mon May 31, 2010 9:37 pm

thanks again for all your replies :)
_at_ Darby: i checked the link you posted. it seems to be a smooth newt

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