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Genetic Problem

Post by Alexander22 » Sun May 02, 2010 12:16 pm

Before i start, i would like to say Hi and hope to enjoy my time here :)

I have always been interested in Boiolgy since an early age and am always on the look out for new problems to solve.

I recently came across this genetic problem and cant find the answer for it, any help would be welcome and i hope to repay you back in the future by helping you :oops:

In maize, the development of a purple pigment in the seed depends on the presence of dominant alleles at two unlinked loci. These alleles are called T and R, and a seed which is homozygous for the recessive allele at either locus is white. Two plants, each grown from a white seed were crossed together and all the F1 seed were purple. Give the genotypes of the parents and describe the F2 seeds.

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Post by JackBean » Sun May 02, 2010 2:17 pm

That is typical exam on how to determine, whether is phenotype of two plants determined by mutations in the same gene or not.
Simply, both parents are homozygous for the recessive allele, but one of gene T and the other of gene R. Thus, if you cross them, you will get heterozygots in both genes and thus will be the seeds purple.
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Re: Genetic Problem

Post by Alexander22 » Sun May 02, 2010 4:19 pm

Thanks for the reply Jack,

How would the F2 look?

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Post by JackBean » Mon May 03, 2010 7:58 am

Well, one of your parents must be tt and the other rr, the other gene could be heterozygous or homozygous, but as all F2 are the same, they must be homozygous, thus RRtt and rrTT, so make the Punnett square ;)
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Re: Genetic Problem

Post by Alexander22 » Mon May 03, 2010 6:20 pm

Hi again, thanks for the help, but im really struggling, i cant seem to work out the answer, Genetics are my weakness :cry:

For the F1, both phenotypes are white right? so the genotype would be tt and rr ? Gametes being t and r therefore genotype being tr which gives purple?


Phenotype Purple Purple

Genotype RRtt rrTT

Gametes RR,Rt,tt,Rt rT,rr,TT,rT

Thats the F2 i get, this right?

that would give me a ratio of 11 Purple : 5 white?????

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Post by JackBean » Mon May 03, 2010 7:33 pm

R and T are separate genes, so you MUST have BOTH in plants AND in gametes!
So, you can't have plants like rr or tt and so you can't have gametes like RR.

As I wrote above, your parents must be RRtt and rrTT and their gametes are thus Rt and rT respectively. So, the offspring can be only RrTt and these are purple, because are heterozygous in both genes ;)
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Re: Genetic Problem

Post by Alexander22 » Mon May 03, 2010 7:46 pm

So F1 and F2 looks like this:

Parents
Parent Phenotype White White
Parent Genotype RRtt rrTT
Gametes Rt rT
F1 Genotype RrTt
F1 Phenotype Purple

F2 Generation
Parents
Phenotype Purple Purple
Genotype RrTt RrTt
Gametes RT,Rt,rT,rt RT,Rt,rT,rt

If this is right then i finally understand,

This would give me a ratio of 10 Purple : 6 White

Thanks again Jack, i really appreciate the help my friend :oops:

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Post by JackBean » Mon May 03, 2010 8:28 pm

I think, it should be 9:7
try it here
http://www.changbioscience.com/genetics/punnett.html
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Post by Alexander22 » Mon May 03, 2010 8:45 pm

yup, your right jack :)

I had Put a Capital R when it should have been small, it was a typo,

Thanks again, that punnet square calculator is very good :)

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Post by JackBean » Mon May 03, 2010 9:06 pm

Yeah, if you want to confirm your results or not to think, but not if you want to learn it ;)
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Post by Alexander22 » Mon May 03, 2010 9:27 pm

JackBean wrote:Yeah, if you want to confirm your results or not to think, but not if you want to learn it ;)


so true, i will only be using it to check, i want to learn not cheat my way to the result :D

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