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Post by meenkashi » Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:20 pm

can u plz specify thru wat contxt r u posn d que????? u may luk into http://www.biochem.com ....bt dat isnt ne more hlpful dan google......
dats ol i cld do....

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Post by canalon » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:15 pm

Considering this in the premises:
Now, if it applies to everything, it must also apply to a normal person.

And if it applies to a normal person, it must be understandable and explainable in plain language by any normal person.

This is a very wrong logical step, that makes all the rest irrelevant.
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Post by blcr11 » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:14 am

The paper, or whatever you want to call it, no longer comes up. All you get is the front page that is now linked to a non-existent page, or else it was moved and the link wasn’t updated. I’m all in favor of simple explanations—the simpler the better. I think Einstein would say things like that, too. But of course Einstein (and Hawking) was comfortable thinking in terms of tensors and potentials so, simple is as simple does, I guess. I couldn’t make much sense of the principle. I only glanced at it, so I don’t recall many of the details anymore. It seemed like a lot of numerological hand-waving to my mind. I don't want to be insulting to the author but "it needs work", as Santa said to the elves after listening distractedly to their song in the claymation version of Rudolf the Red-nosed Reindeer.

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Post by canalon » Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:00 pm

You are right, I read it a little more carefully, there are more logical flaws in the entire things than I thought after a fast-forward read. Besides whoever coded this page should start learning HTML. I had to correct all links by hand to be able to navigate in this site (for instance there is a difference between / and \ in the adress...).
And it is not because Einstein or Hawking have said that the basic rule of the universe should be understandable by anyone that they actually will be. Those are opinions, not fact. And both of those authors have proved that they master some physics that the average barmaid is usually not completely able to understand.
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