Synthetic Body Organs

Debate and discussion of any biological questions not pertaining to a particular topic.

Moderators: honeev, Leonid, amiradm, BioTeam

Post Reply
TEng89
Garter
Garter
Posts: 3
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 4:14 pm

Synthetic Body Organs

Post by TEng89 » Mon May 26, 2008 4:24 pm

Hi,

I was planning to do a little experiement but I wanted to use materials which resembled the physical & chemical properties of actual organs for the experiment to be a bit more realistic.

I tried googling a bit, unfortunately I only get listings for organs which are made of plastic or prosthetics. I've seen CSI using the rubber like models for some scene reconstructions, unfortunately, I'm not completely sure what the material is called? Any pointers on what I need to be looking at?

User avatar
mith
Inland Taipan
Inland Taipan
Posts: 5345
Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:14 pm
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by mith » Mon May 26, 2008 5:46 pm

How does rubber resemble the chemical properties of actual organs?
Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
~Niebuhr

TEng89
Garter
Garter
Posts: 3
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 4:14 pm

Post by TEng89 » Mon May 26, 2008 6:00 pm

Mith - Hmm, that's something I should have thought about before posting. Nonetheless, I was reading some articles online and perhaps polyurethane is a better bet for the skin?

I don't want them to be exactly similar ... just more or less, like skin to be of a material which is thick and flexible, on ther other hand ... bone to be hard and rigid etc.

User avatar
mith
Inland Taipan
Inland Taipan
Posts: 5345
Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:14 pm
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by mith » Mon May 26, 2008 7:43 pm

It would be helpful to know what experiment you're running, and budget of course. But I think overall you're going to find more plastics than non-plastics just because they're usually unreactive towards the body(allergies and immune concerns). The rigidity can usually be altered by adding crosslinks.
Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
~Niebuhr

daniel.kurz
Coral
Coral
Posts: 167
Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 1:47 am

Post by daniel.kurz » Tue May 27, 2008 1:15 am

To be as real as possible you need to mimic the physical properties first because looking at the chemical. The chemical depends on the application of the physical object. You don't need to waste budget fixing things in your experiment that don't need fixing. Tell us more about what your testing for, and we can probably help you more.

TEng89
Garter
Garter
Posts: 3
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 4:14 pm

Re: Synthetic Body Organs

Post by TEng89 » Tue May 27, 2008 3:48 pm

mith and daniel - just as a little project I'm trying to view the results of a burn victim specifically in the torso area to see which organs are damaged most. Regarding budget I'd say 100-150$ max.

User avatar
canalon
Inland Taipan
Inland Taipan
Posts: 3909
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:46 pm
Location: Canada

Post by canalon » Tue May 27, 2008 4:57 pm

So what you want toe emulate are not the physiscal properties of the skin, and the other organs, but rather their resistance to heat, and their ability to transfer it to the next layer. I am definitely not sure that plastics will be of any relevance, I would rather work with some sort of aqueous gels (because that is what we are made of), but don't ask me anything more specific.
Patrick

Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without
any proof. (Ashley Montague)

daniel.kurz
Coral
Coral
Posts: 167
Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 1:47 am

Post by daniel.kurz » Tue May 27, 2008 6:47 pm

I would say some kind of silicon gel would work best. You can probably find it from a prosthetics company perhaps. Silicon emulates the structural polymer of skin best.

User avatar
mith
Inland Taipan
Inland Taipan
Posts: 5345
Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:14 pm
Location: Nashville, TN
Contact:

Post by mith » Tue May 27, 2008 9:39 pm

Find some used breast implants

</juvenile humor>

You could probably use animals bones to replicate human bones.
Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
~Niebuhr

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests