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Help me guyz i m new in the bioinformatics field

Post by sara sabir » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:14 am

i need to know the relationship between the % of the nitrogenous bases of the diffracted dna of human, sheep and hen

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Post by blcr11 » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:13 pm

?Why would you expect there to be such a relationship? The fiber diffraction pattern of DNA depends mostly on salt conditions and relative humidity. It isn't (at least so far as I know) dependent on the base composition.

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u hvnt got me

Post by sara sabir » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:08 am

i wanted to say dat
as we noe dat the % of adenine is almost equal to thymin n cytosine is equal to dat of guanin
so is there any such other comparison wen v c da table of the % of nitrogenous bases of human sheep n hen etc
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as the table says

Post by sara sabir » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:14 am

A G T C
human 30.9 19.9 29.4 19.8

sheep 29.3 21.4 28.3 21.0

hen 28.8 20.5 29.2 21.5


now from these values of nitrogenouses bases i need the relationships between them
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Post by blcr11 » Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:59 pm

It’s still not clear to me what kind of relationship you expect, and none of this has anything much to do with “diffraction” no matter what you’re looking for. About all you can tell from these data is the relative %G+C content of the various DNAs; Human (39.7) < Sheep or Chicken which both have about the same (42.4 for Sheep, 42.5 for Chicken). I think base composition is a crude way to look at phylogenetic relationships (if that's what you're trying to do). You have to at least look at Cot curves or, better yet, sequence data.

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Post by sara sabir » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:23 am

i just wanna know the relationship of the values of these nitrogenous bases in different organisms

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Post by blcr11 » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:58 pm

No. As worded, your question is pointless.

I think you are trying to say something about the phylogentic relationships between species, but I don't believe you can say much about that with % base composition. If it isn't phylogeny you are looking at (as in genetic trees, and genetic relatedness etc) then I do not understand what you mean by "relationship of the values of these nitrogenous bases in different organisms". Maybe we have a language problem between us, I don't know, but I can't help you any more than this unless you re-phrase the question in a way that makes more sense.

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Post by sara sabir » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:23 pm

first tell me dat
do u agree wid me wen i say dat the amount of adenine n thymine is almost equal to dat of thymine
n da amount of cytosine z equal to guanine in evry org ????
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Post by blcr11 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:04 pm

Yes. That's Chargaff's Rule. The amount of A = the amount of T and the amount of G = the amount of C. This, we now know, comes from the base pairing requirements of dsDNA. Within experimental error, this will be true for DNA from all species. It is true for the DNA samples you listed. You said you already knew about A=T and C=G.

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Post by sara sabir » Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:26 pm

wat other such relation can v find among da bases
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Post by blcr11 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:46 pm

There isn't any other.

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Post by canalon » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:13 pm

blcr11 wrote:There isn't any other.


The G+C content is sometimes used (at least in bacteria) as a wide but nevertheles interesting marker of exogenous genes.

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