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Post by Jones » Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:47 pm

Yeah, brutality. I'm posting this on another forum if you don't mind?

And I don't agree with it being done to humans either.
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Post by mith » Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:47 pm

most dissection animals are gassed to death. One of my profs said they used to do vivisections with anethesized animals.
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Post by MrMistery » Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:04 pm

when i went to the national olympiad in the 10th and 11th grade, there were some experiments with nerves and the heart for example that were supposed to be done on a live frog.
At the University of Bucharest they don't kill frogs prior to taking away their liver....

Besides the fact that i find that very cruel, it makes me throw up..
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Post by Jones » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:09 pm

I would easily protest that.
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Post by alextemplet » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:20 pm

I agree; vivisection is bit too cruel for my tastes, as well.
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Post by Jones » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:28 pm

Just makes me think of what I would do if someone took out my liver while I was alive...
Probably cry.
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Post by volcob » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:03 am

during our zoo 1 our professor took a skined toad and submerged it on formalin

it was wonderful to see that the toad, even when there was little hope for him to survive, persisted to live

was of the most important thing I learned in biology is that life is so wonderful and each organism is meticulously designed and built

so that I would even spare an ant when wanders in my skin but doesnt bite

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Post by mcar » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:14 pm

Since the animal is still alive, the action of some organs are observed better. Though doing it really makes some shrill. It is just so sad to know that as we learn that life is so wonderful, the counterpart of it is that there is always something needed to be sacrificed.
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Post by Jones » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:43 pm

You know what I thought was weird?
If you put a frog in cool water on a stove he won't try to jump out as the water starts to getter hot and eventually boil, but he will jump out if you put him in a pan of already hot water.
I am easily amazed.
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Post by alextemplet » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:56 pm

That does seem to be the pattern; man's endless desire to learn about his world inevitably leads to destruction.
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Post by Jones » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:11 pm

I don't see why people can't just accept the fact that we live and we die and I don't get why they can't stop trying so hard to learn about why we are how we are.
I just wanna live.
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Post by MichaelXY » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:39 pm

As Socrates once said, "Knowledge is virtue"

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