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Post by alextemplet » Tue May 01, 2007 11:36 pm

Here's how I see it:

I keep my house clean, because I hate to live in a dirty home. This planet is our home; why shouldn't we keep it clean?
Generally speaking, the more people talk about "being saved," the further away they actually are from true salvation.

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Post by canalon » Tue May 01, 2007 11:48 pm

robertkernodle wrote:.
I would like to see a more official report, but take a look at this:

solar system changes

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I would indeed like to see more official. The rest of the website is in fact really scary and do not inspire trust inn the scientific content of this page.
But even without looking at the rest the idea that our moon can be growing a 6000 km atmosphere of sodium (Or Natrium as they call it, ever wonder why the Chemical symbol for sodum is Na?) lead to serious doubts on the rest of the content...
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Post by kotoreru » Wed May 02, 2007 12:31 pm

Hmm, yes I cant say that the content of that site is worth the 2kb it takes up on the Web. Sorry RK.
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Post by i_r_e_d » Thu May 03, 2007 9:06 pm

The earth is just like any human being... When crap is put into it, it finds a way to dispose of whatever is causing the crap. A sort of means of an immune system... Humans hurt the ozone of the planet, the planet lets in more UV rays, humans begin to die. But I do agree that humans are a large part of the Global warming...

ps(the government put out that they want scientist to begin saying global warming THEORY because they don't want the world to be in a state of panic or to start blaming the government or expecting them to do something about it)
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Post by kotoreru » Fri May 04, 2007 1:20 pm

Hmmm. Nice analogy, sounds almost Lovelock-esque to me.

And when you say the Government, please refer to one. The American Government (or rather the Bush admins) are really the only ones fighting this thing. Even the Chinese are holding themselves accountable for goodness sake.
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Post by canalon » Fri May 04, 2007 3:42 pm

You can count Australia in the Bush camp too. And the Chinese position is not clear, they recognize the problem, but are definitely not doing anything...
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Post by kotoreru » Fri May 04, 2007 4:18 pm

Australia contribute significantly less to the Global carbon budget than the States, and the Chinese are currently in negotiations...they'll do something, it's not worth as much as the business they get from the West.
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Post by i_r_e_d » Fri May 04, 2007 6:11 pm

kotoreru wrote:Hmmm. Nice analogy, sounds almost Lovelock-esque to me.



What is Lovelock-esque?
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Post by robertkernodle » Fri May 04, 2007 9:45 pm

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Yeah,... that solar system link obviously is suspect - I didn't follow it back to the index page.

Still, I wonder what subdued studies or inconclusive reports they might have scavenged to come up with their version of this stuff.

Maybe I'll try to check some sources later.

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Post by kotoreru » Sat May 05, 2007 3:58 pm

What is Lovelock-esque?


Google 'Gaia theory'.

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Post by i_r_e_d » Sat May 05, 2007 4:55 pm

KEWL!!!! Man, I didn't know that my way of thinking has already been thought up.... :o
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Post by kotoreru » Sat May 05, 2007 7:28 pm

lol it usually has, don't take it to heart ;)
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