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Born gay?

Post by hellro » Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:00 am

What are people's opinions on this? Can ppl be born gay?

Personally, I think the influences people experience are the cause. What's a more biological stance on this?

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Post by Ally » Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:04 am

I dont believe people can be born gay. Its a choice. A very sick choice. People were not meant to be with their own genders. Its just wrong!

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Post by victor » Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:37 am

I think that some parts of human behaviour is also determined by his/her genetic even though majority is determined by his/her surrounding environments. So, there'll always be a possibility for a man born gay.. :wink:
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Post by sdekivit » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:52 am

Ally wrote:I dont believe people can be born gay. Its a choice. A very sick choice. People were not meant to be with their own genders. Its just wrong!


I totally disagree with the it would be a sick choice. Like this post you state that being gay is like an afful disease and the nazis in the second world war thought the same .... :evil: (i don't like this kind of statements)

I'm not gay, but yes environment plays an important role. But i've read something that gays have higher levels of oestrogens than testosteron. So i believe people can be born gay.

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Post by mith » Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:28 pm

There's both genetic and environmental factors and the question isn't really which is more influential, but how do they interact....almost a direct quote from my anthropology book.
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Post by Linn » Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:25 pm

mithrilhack wrote:There's both genetic and environmental factors and the question isn't really which is more influential, but how do they interact....almost a direct quote from my anthropology book.


Yes

and may I add, from personal observations, that some chromosone abnormalities can and do occur as to sexual identity. I have known "males" from the age of three years old who always behaved femine. Also, I know peo[pe who were sexualy molested as children by the same sex and who later chose to be gay. There is a tremendous inner turmoil that they go through and horrible depreesion.

For the reminder who choose to be gay I have no clue. :?
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Post by fireblaze » Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:28 pm

Most managers are gay as far as i know. guess its coz they see men most of the time hence they are attracted to them. statistically, men have sexual thoughts every 9 secs. so if there are men in front of them al the time they will begin to fantasise about them.

what do u think

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Post by canalon » Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:54 pm

fireblaze wrote:Most managers are gay as far as i know. guess its coz they see men most of the time hence they are attracted to them. statistically, men have sexual thoughts every 9 secs. so if there are men in front of them al the time they will begin to fantasise about them.

what do u think


Define manager...
They see men most of the time? Should I assume that most of the workforce is male only? Most of the time I see either bacteria or computer when I am working, will I becoe sexually attracted by computers and Petri Dishes?
Men have sexual thougts every 9 secs... today I was calculating statistics for all morning, I don't think any sexual thoughts ever cross my mind in those 4 hours.

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Post by kjle » Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:38 pm

agreed^

also I believe that people are not born homosexual, even though some males may have a lower testosterone level in their bodies. Testosterone may define how "manly" someone might be(e.g. bigger muscles, more hair, lower voice...all things detirmined by testosterone). But that does not detirmine their sexual preference. Their sexual preference is detirmined by environmental affects. These are just my thoughts on the topic.
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Post by victor » Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:10 pm

Hmmm...according to the book that I read (it's title is GENOME by Matt Ridley), people (men) have the tendency to be born gay. The book said that the tendency depends on the frequency of a mother in giving birth a boy.
Example like if a mother have 4 sons, then the highest tendency to be gay is on the fouth son. The book also said that it's due to the mother's genetic ability (in her uterus) in male brain masculanisation is getting decreased as every giving birth to boy
But afterall, still, the book said that even though one has a tendency of becoming a gay, he would not be a gay unless he got the supporting environment. So, here we can see that environment plays a major role in "gay-ing" someone....:lol:
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Post by Linn » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:19 pm

I have personaly observed this in a family.
and the strongest evidence was with a man who had an uncle who was gay, three brothers out of 5 beame gay. He found out 26 years after the fact that his girlfriend (at the time he called himself bi) never got the abortion he thought and had the baby. 26 years later he met up with a young man in the gay bar he worked at and found out (also took test) that he was this young gay mans father. conclusion> must be genetic? or..... :? did the girlfriend keep a certain enviroment?
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Post by victor » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:43 pm

Oh yes....true, true that book I mentioned also said about the mother's relative...especially uncle..hmm, this can be confusing...when the tendency of becoming gay meet the supporting factors... :wink:
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