Are evolution and creationism mutually exclusive???
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The only exception I have to what you original post is that it is a "valid" alternative.
This is not true.
As any "theory of creationism" is not testable - no experiment can be designed to provide scientific evidence of a "creator" by direct or indirect measurements or observations, therefore no evidence can be collected to support or refute any hypothesis generated from the theory. Because creationism is not testable, it is classified as "beliefs" and require "faith" in any proposed explanations.
Thus, any "theory of creationism" falls outside of the realm of science and the scientific method. And evolution and creationism are mutually exclusive of one another.
The only exception I have to what you original post is that it is a "valid" alternative.
This is not true.
As any "theory of creationism" is not testable - no experiment can be designed to provide scientific evidence of a "creator" by direct or indirect measurements or observations, therefore no evidence can be collected to support or refute any hypothesis generated from the theory. Because creationism is not testable, it is classified as "beliefs" and require "faith" in any proposed explanations.
Thus, any "theory of creationism" falls outside of the realm of science and the scientific method. And evolution and creationism are mutually exclusive of one another.
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daddyjames wrote:
As any "theory of creationism" is not testable - no experiment can be designed to provide scientific evidence of a "creator" by direct or indirect measurements or observations, therefore no evidence can be collected to support or refute any hypothesis generated from the theory. Because creationism is not testable, it is classified as "beliefs" and require "faith" in any proposed explanations.
Thus, any "theory of creationism" falls outside of the realm of science and the scientific method. And evolution and creationism are mutually exclusive of one another.
I agree with most of the first part, except it should read "theory of creation" instead. That way creation via evolution would be accounted for in the same paragraph and, thus, evolution and creationism are NOT mutually exclusive.
While molecular evolution is established fact, creation of any life form via evolution is untestable theory (just as creationism).
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jinx25 wrote:Cat do you believe the genetic code, DNA trancription and translation, DNA repair enzymes came from non living matter, through natural processes? If anyone does i admire their religious faith. Spontaneous generation i mean abiogenesis is scientifically impossible.
Actually, if you want my personal (unprovable) unjustified by anything belief, then it’s neither theory. I believe that everything in nature (and in universe) is recycled. Thus, live matter would be recycled as well. I am unable to believe that something came out of nothing without having any evidence to support that.
Re: Are evolution and creationism mutually exclusive???
What is meant by Genesis quote 'And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us...'
Us, is there more than one God? If not who is the US and are they supreme? And is the title Lord God mean the one God (Lord) over the other Gods? Sort of the chief God?
Us, is there more than one God? If not who is the US and are they supreme? And is the title Lord God mean the one God (Lord) over the other Gods? Sort of the chief God?
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Evolution can be tested directly through controlled experiments. In contrast, our evolutionary history cannot be tested directly through controlled experiments since it is a matter of history, not nature. However, we can still collect evidence for our evolutionary history, just as a detective can collect evidence for someone's guilt. This is still empiricism.
Although creationism is incompatible with science, it is not incompatible with evolution or our ideas about evolutionary history. One could accept abiogenesis yet still believe that some god was directing things all along. They could believe that the random mutations weren't actually random at all. Indeed, "random" basically means "without a known cause." Such ideas would still be creationism.
To be fair, people who think they are scientifically testing creationism (Intelligent Design) aren't actually testing creationism at all. Rather, they are attempting to falsify the evolution-based explanations in an attempt to force us into accepting creationism as the only reasonable alternative. However, although the details of specific creation myths make them falsifiable, ceationism in the broad sense cannot be verified or falsified.
Although creationism is incompatible with science, it is not incompatible with evolution or our ideas about evolutionary history. One could accept abiogenesis yet still believe that some god was directing things all along. They could believe that the random mutations weren't actually random at all. Indeed, "random" basically means "without a known cause." Such ideas would still be creationism.
To be fair, people who think they are scientifically testing creationism (Intelligent Design) aren't actually testing creationism at all. Rather, they are attempting to falsify the evolution-based explanations in an attempt to force us into accepting creationism as the only reasonable alternative. However, although the details of specific creation myths make them falsifiable, ceationism in the broad sense cannot be verified or falsified.
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wildfunguy wrote:Indeed, "random" basically means "without a known cause."
By this I just meant that we can't predict exactly when some specific mutation will occur. Although I'm new to biology, I think this is correct, and where ever there is unpredictability, there is room for outside interference.
I found the term for people who reconcile evolution and creationism. They're "theistic evolutionists."
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wildfunguy wrote:I found the term for people who reconcile evolution and creationism. They're "theistic evolutionists."
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