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Post by London » Sat May 20, 2006 11:07 pm

Thank you for posting those links Fiber Symptoms!

I know your symptoms have gotten better from following the Candida Diet
plus other modifications you use, but I was wondering if any of your labwork, heartrate, blood pressure, or anything else is still maybe out of kilter?

Although my symptoms are much better than when I first knew I had this disease, my heart rate and breathing has began a steady nose dive.

Anyone else with the experience that although your tactile and visuals
of the intensity of this disease has lessened, you are now testing the opposite way? I.e. labwork is still going downhill although you feel better?

And Randy, don't yell at me........I didn't forget your advice on getting the C - Reactive protein Test either......How did you know to get this test? Was it just a normal part of their screening you?

My heartrate is elevated now and had bad electrocardiogram, yet my Stress Test said my heart was strong.......just beats extremely resting pulse rate is always in the mid-nineties. Point being, I wonder why they did not test me for this way back when????

I also wanted to make a comment on Anthrax. Just a day or two ago, I read an article that had a statement in it saying that why most of our gulf war vets are experiencing illnesses was because of the

Anthrax vacination they were given ( probably unbeknownst to them).

I did not follow up on that article but i probably do have it saved somewhere, but today I started really thinking about it more and more.

Our symptoms are very similar to the Gulf War Vets.......


Hey, Canalon......

I have been reading more but can't find much info in the books on the Anthrax Vacination. Do you happen to know what all that it entails?

If you have any spare time, could you please share your thoughts on this.

I think it has been great to have you writing.....



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Post by Skytroll » Sun May 21, 2006 12:59 am


Mattman was removed from her office for treating Lymes patients. They said she was not to continue.

I sent a letter to the Michigan Attorney General on that one. They changed the laws about treating Lymes patients in Michigan, and we are stuck with labs that do not test accurately for Lymes.

So, no good tests are done here that I know of.


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Post by Skytroll » Sun May 21, 2006 2:03 am


I see that name Wiley keeps coming up on those types of links, dealing with aerosol propellent spraying.

I have seen that name so many times.


But, I do wonder electromagnetic connection which seems to affect animals, insects etc.

The reactome:
Reactome map Humans Lineage;

Now if we look along this lineage (inter)actions
we will probably find every type of morph going on.

This is a reactome, reactions, (inter)actions.

Close Tam Tam? ... &ID=48887&

give you any ideas?


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Post by Skytroll » Sun May 21, 2006 3:36 am

And then we have the equivalent in gene expression. ... 160&ZOOM=2

The Ortholog groups of protein sequences:

eugenes: Eukaryotes.

how we are similar:

Daphnia stocks:

UniGene: An Organized View of the Transciptome.
Each UniGene entry is a set of transcript sequences that appear to come from the same transcription locus (gene or expressed pseudogene), together with information on protein similarities, gene expression, cDNA clone reagents, and genomic location.

Species UniGene Entries
Bos taurus (Cow) 41,986
Canis familiaris (Dog) 23,414
Homo sapiens (Human) 95,887
Macaca fascicularis (Crab-eating monkey) 7,488
Macaca mulatta (Rhesus monkey) 4,870
Mus musculus (Mouse) 65,970
Oryctolagus cuniculus (Rabbit) 3,726
Ovis aries (Sheep) 4,081
Rattus norvegicus (Rat) 72,085
Sus scrofa (Pig) 37,862
Danio rerio (Zebrafish) 32,539
Fundulus heteroclitus (Killifish) 3,154
Gasterosteus aculeatus (Three spined stickleback) 14,936
Oncorhynchus mykiss (Rainbow trout) 24,466
Oryzias latipes (Japanese medaka) 11,521
Pimephales promelas 18,541
Salmo salar (Atlantic salmon) 17,032
Takifugu rubripes 3,546
Xenopus laevis (African clawed frog) 29,244
Xenopus tropicalis (Western clawed frog) 33,132
Ciona intestinalis (Seasquirt) 15,587
Ciona savignyi 7,291
Molgula tectiformis 7,351
Gallus gallus (Chicken) 30,470
Branchiostoma floridae (Florida lancelet) 11,300
Strongylocentrotus purpuratus (Purple sea urchin) 14,658
Aedes aegypti (Yellow fever mosquito) 15,392
Anopheles gambiae (African malaria mosquito) 15,609
Apis mellifera (Honeybee) 4,583
Bombyx mori (Domestic silkworm) 6,755
Drosophila melanogaster (Fruit fly) 16,635
Tribolium castaneum (Red flour beetle) 6,328
Caenorhabditis elegans (Nematode) 21,529
Schistosoma japonicum 8,951
Schistosoma mansoni 8,669
Physcomitrella patens 7,926
Picea glauca (White spruce) 6,867
Picea sitchensis (Sitka spruce) 6,907
Pinus taeda (Loblolly pine) 14,198
Aquilegia formosa x Aquilegia pubescens 7,675
Arabidopsis thaliana (Thale cress) 26,793
Brassica napus (Rape) 3,955
Citrus sinensis (Navel orange) 8,786
Glycine max (Soybean) 15,047
Gossypium hirsutum (Upland cotton) 10,845
Gossypium raimondii 3,120
Helianthus annuus (Sunflower) 2,653
Lactuca sativa (Lettuce) 6,748
Lotus corniculatus 9,639
Lycopersicon esculentum (Tomato) 12,746
Malus x domestica (Apple tree) 17,180
Medicago truncatula (Barrel medic) 13,467
Populus balsamifera 11,310
Populus tremula x Populus tremuloides 7,641
Solanum tuberosum (Potato) 17,089
Vitis vinifera (Wine grape) 15,194
Hordeum vulgare (Barley) 13,485
Oryza sativa (Rice) 51,482
Saccharum officinarum (Noble cane) 4,787
Sorghum bicolor (Milo) 12,464
Triticum aestivum (Wheat) 35,263
Zea mays (Maize) 28,952
Dictyostelium discoideum (Slime mold) 3,866
Toxoplasma gondii 6,005
Coccidioides posadasii 3,403
Gibberella moniliformis 5,214
Magnaporthe grisea 5,736
Neurospora crassa 3,225
Filobasidiella neoformans 4,006
Chlamydomonas reinhardtii 6,079
Hydra magnipapillata 10,370
Phytophthora infestans (Potato late blight agent) 3,330

In addition to sequences of well-characterized genes, hundreds of thousands novel expressed sequence tag (EST) sequences have been included. Consequently, the collection may be of use to the community as a resource for gene discovery. UniGene has also been used by experimentalists to select reagents for gene mapping projects and large-scale expression analysis.

So, we are comparable to animals, insects, and plants.



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Post by London » Sun May 21, 2006 8:33 am

Sky excellent my friend ( re your above post plus , "dug the hyperlinks-

specially the third one.......... I have sdme new articles / favorite doctomemts
articles as wll saved. Evem cyanobacteria

And sky. I have heard it bother you before > re: EVOLUTION AND NEW THINGS and also as a vector to get in e. Coli (probably

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Post by Cilla » Sun May 21, 2006 2:41 pm

Hi All,

You don't think the authorities responsible for biosafety within these high containment level laboratories would act, if you were to raise a formal query about a putative link between your apparent condition, and what a person claiming to be a scientist has been repeatedly asserting?

They would have to respond.

Biosafety within high containment laboratories is taken extremely seriously, both in the US and the UK, and elsewhere.

Tam tam has introduced other drugs, supplementary to the Schwartz protocol, viz. amphotericin, which should be prescribed in cases where the eye infection/infestation is so bad that the vitreous is involved. Dr Schwartz did not argue with him about that suggestion, when they had a discussion on this very site. So, he would certainly seem to have specialist knowledge about the drugs that would be needed because of the protozoal element.

Because of this specialist knowledge, and other things he has said, he could very well be what he says he is.

If you have a condition that is not being satisfactorily treated, partly because it is not showing up on standard laboratory tests, you would have nothing to lose by alerting the authorities to what has been repeatedly claimed.

You would have everything to gain.

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Post by Pandamancer » Sun May 21, 2006 6:14 pm

This disease was just brought to my attention today, and i'm worried that i had not heard about it sooner. It looks like it would be terrible to suffer from this, and to top it off it's kinda creepy. My sypathy to any afflicted, and my hopes to finding a cure.

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Cilla, would you be so kind

Post by southcity » Sun May 21, 2006 11:35 pm

Hello Cilla, would you be so kind as to send me an email or any other means of speaking with you. My email is [email protected]

Thank you

"First they ignore you...
Then they laugh at you...
Then they fight you...
Then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

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Post by London » Mon May 22, 2006 12:15 am

Hi all.....

Sky, sorry my above post to you did not make too much sense.....I actually fell asleep while writing that post early this morning....I will email you the rest of my sentence........


You know what? I think I'm gonna follow your advice......about a month or so ago-right after Tam's new video came out, I PM'd about 5 people that write on this forum and said something quite like what you're saying and asked them all what they thought if we all did that.......

The responses were varied. UG guy well, he lives in another Country, so that was out for him......and the rest said things like well, they would if they know just who did this- i.e., stating that they would have to know who they would be seeking litigation from.......blah, blah......

But what the hell, Eh? Do I actually like "care" if they think I'm nuts or laugh at me? So, you have a point......It will probably be like Friday before I will be able to complete the certified letter though.

I think I will send a letter (certified) to the CDC and demand intervention.

I will use Tam's video as a reference and also will use the response from Dr. Wymore.

I think the CDC knows that Tam has Identified something that is a potential threat. I know they are trying to avod confrontation.

I will probably mention lack of vigilance and that I will be seeking litigation/ compensation........

Maybe, I will have an attorney actually send my letter to them.

What do you think? South, what do you think?

I will await for your opinions ( and / or anyone elses)

Now, check this is called Mt. Dioxin and it sits in Pennsicola, Florida..... ... 6#feature1



PS: I do not think Tam will mind if I use his video as a reference, but I will certainly write to him and ask (I know how you think I could easily get sued Cilla....:)........)

Hey, check this out, of course it's in the state of Hawaii, but it is about Authority and the BSO. (Bio Safety Officer) Is this kind of what you are referring to Cilla?
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Post by London » Mon May 22, 2006 12:36 am

Hey Skytroll,

You don't want to miss this one( yes, it's hard to read but I think it is very important.)

Prokaryotic Chromosomes and Disease ... cience.pdf


I also read last night a document produced in 2003 by the NIH, stating upcoming and emerging/ re-emerging diseases they were looking into..........

Morgellons/ fiber disease was not listed on it unless they have it coded in
some weird name that I did not recognize. But, it gave a brief description of each one (disease) and I read nothing at all that sounded like what fit the description of our symptoms.........

What I thought was also strange was the new wild names of diseases toward the end of this document that I had never heard was almost like they were not sure what Our Disease will eventually turn into and so to cover their bases, they listed them all.......

Now that my dear Lynne, is maybe what you would call "Para", but the other thing......well, it was called "FACT!"


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Post by London » Mon May 22, 2006 1:24 am

check -it-out !

New Germ Labs Stir a Debate Over Secrecy and Safety



Post by ukguy » Mon May 22, 2006 1:45 am

Ok just heading off to bed and had a quick read.

Mr Hart!

Great pictures...thank you for sharing.
You raised some great points, not least the issue of Sarcoidosis.
Reading through the list of symptoms.....hmmm..I have alot of those.

Are we really quorum sensing magnets?

Mr Hart, you made a great contribution and I hope you stay for
a while. You have a rare sense of humour and understanding
about this disease.

Please nice to this guy! He will be a great help.

Did you hear Dr Wymore's interview?

Thanks for the pictures once again Mr Hart...please share your
full regime when you can.


Speak to you soon


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