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by jumma
Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:38 am
Forum: Evolution
Topic: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense
Replies: 27
Views: 49601

Re: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense

There are many definition/s of natural selection :many of which contradict each other, t he truth is nobody knows how to define natural selection all that shows is NS is a subjective and value laden thing where is even the definition subjective and value laden many [definitions of NS ]of which cont...
by jumma
Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:13 am
Forum: Evolution
Topic: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense
Replies: 27
Views: 49601

Re: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense

lets keep on track the thread is about NS being nonsense Now the notion of harmful traits/genes ends in nonsense as harmful is a subjective value laden notion as this author points out thus Natural Selection ends in absurdity or nonsense as in one case it is be argued that genes which stop reproduct...
by jumma
Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:10 am
Forum: Evolution
Topic: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense
Replies: 27
Views: 49601

Re: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense

NS does decrease the BAD gene frequencies wrong harnfull genes are common -read the thread for the evidence it is seen that inherited genetic disorders can decrease the probability of reproduction - thus such genetics disorder according to NS are harmful or unfavorable ,but NS says such harmful gen...
by jumma
Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:05 pm
Forum: Evolution
Topic: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense
Replies: 27
Views: 49601

Re: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense

Either Futuyma is wrong or your interpretation of Futuyma is wrong and I don't care which it is this takes us right back to the thread we have a definition of NS ie Futuyma now you dont like that definition as it turns NS into nonsense so you want accept it thus when even definitions are based on s...
by jumma
Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:45 pm
Forum: Evolution
Topic: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense
Replies: 27
Views: 49601

Re: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense

No, Futuyma is wrong


a lot of people dont think so
just have a look at how many sites cite him

google has 48 pages of cites for the quote
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22n ... 24&bih=636
by jumma
Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:37 pm
Forum: Evolution
Topic: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense
Replies: 27
Views: 49601

Re: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense

so according to your entire premise when the individual with the bad genes die the overall number of bad genes in the population drops till it's all gone? my point is it is seen that inherited genetic disorders can decrease the probability of reproduction- thus such genetics disorder according to N...
by jumma
Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:32 pm
Forum: Evolution
Topic: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense
Replies: 27
Views: 49601

Re: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense

No, I never said that. If you put words in my mouth, then this will not be a rational discussion, and I will walk away. yes you are correct i appologise but you said a harmful gene is one that reduces the PROBABILITY of reproduction. and as noted THERE ARE MANY GENETIC DISORDERS WHICH ARE COMMON ie...
by jumma
Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:58 am
Forum: Evolution
Topic: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense
Replies: 27
Views: 49601

Re: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense

”natural selection, a process that causes helpful traits (those that increase the chance of survival and reproduction) to become more common in a population and causes harmful traits to become more rare ” (Ref: Futuyma, Douglas Evolution 2005 Bowler, Peter. Evolution: the hisotry of an idea) you bo...
by jumma
Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:51 pm
Forum: Evolution
Topic: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense
Replies: 27
Views: 49601

Re: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense

I am looking for a rational debete how about discussing this rather than avoid it by adhominums Namely in one case a person dies before reproducing because of inherited genes ie breast cancer gene then it is claimed that the genes were of harmful or unfavorabl e – because they stopped reproduction -...
by jumma
Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:58 pm
Forum: Evolution
Topic: Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense
Replies: 27
Views: 49601

Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense

Natural selection ends in absurdity or nonsense A definition of natural selection states ”natural selection, a process that causes helpful traits (those that increase the chance of survival and reproduction) to become more common in a population and causes harmful traits to become more rare” (Ref: F...
by jumma
Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:33 pm
Forum: Evolution
Topic: Natural selection is proven wrong
Replies: 247
Views: 804243

Re: Natural selection is proven wrong

A mutation is a change in the genetic code a changed caused by ie a virus radiation via a random process a random process genetics cant explain an example of such a random process which could start the mutation The sun changes, the weather changes, gravitational forces change, atmospheric content c...
by jumma
Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:22 pm
Forum: Evolution
Topic: Natural selection is proven wrong
Replies: 247
Views: 804243

Re: Natural selection is proven wrong

The sun changes, the weather changes, gravitational forces change, atmospheric content changes, there are many changes you say This is explanation??? So what did we provide? GEEEEEEEE The sun changes, the weather changes, gravitational forces change, atmospheric content changes, there are many chan...