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Postby mith » Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:38 pm

Hmm not sure about that, bleach is highly alkaline. Although chlorine ions are not very harmful, chlorine gas is poisonous and bleach does release some.
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Postby MrMistery » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:26 pm

Sounds logical... can't test it, i use no-bleach detergent
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Postby victor » Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:25 pm

We can't compare between urine and bleaching agent because bleaching agent contains more inorganic ions such as Cl- ion and other alkalic ions (usually for bleaching agent they use Na+ as the alkaline) while urine (as Andrew said) contains more than 50 igredients..maybe I can say that some of them are forming complex ions so it will not harmful for someone who drink it. Example is like this...if we eat Phospore in a form of (P4) it means we're seeking for death but, in reality, our body contains Phospore in the form of Calcium phosphate (Ca3(PO4)2). Maybe this example is too simple for the complex ions but...I think it proves a little..(I forget another molecule pattern of our body's complex ions :wink: )
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Postby victor » Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:36 am

We should ask jelanen about this for the details since he/she is the great biochemist.. :wink:
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Postby MrMistery » Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:58 pm

Actually we can compare the 2. If after you drink one you die and after you drink the other you live, I would take the second one. PS: I think Kyle should know more of this, this is more of an anatomy thing
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Postby victor » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:04 am

Yup..let's ask him more about this..because this confuse me a lot.. :roll:
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Postby biostudent84 » Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:32 pm

I'll give you a little hint and then you can ask your question ;)

Cl-, while as an ion, is a base. However, it is paired with H+ to form HCl, which is an acid overall.

Bleach contains NaOH, not HCl.
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Postby mith » Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:49 pm

Actually most bleaches use sodium hypochlorite as an active ingredient...with teh same results descibed.
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Postby victor » Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:31 pm

Yeah...as a form of Sodium Hypochlorite (NaClO). and does our pee contain that kind of substances?I don't think so..and back to the basic question..why does urine that is highly believed contains many harmful substances can make people healthier after drinking it?? (It's a fact)..this doesn't make sense...can anyone explain about this?? :roll:
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Postby MrMistery » Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:20 pm

Here is a thought: It stimulates your immune system. kinda like keeping it fit.
My tennis coach(not a great scientist) said that when he had a cold he got on his bike and ride until he sweats to keep his immune system fit. Not exactly an intelligent thing to do but i never saw him sick once in 5 years
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Postby biostudent84 » Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:41 pm

mithrilhack wrote:Actually most bleaches use sodium hypochlorite as an active ingredient...with teh same results descibed.


I've never heard of the type of bleach that you listed above ;)

I was referring to acids and bases. Nit-picking the actual chemical used might provoke a reaction the next time you refer to table salt as Sodium Chloride ;) :P
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Postby mith » Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:48 pm

Lol low sodium salts use KCl :D.
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