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Postby Final_King » Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:50 pm

i dont know im new at this type of stuff but im an asthmetic and i know that it really has nothing to do wiht this type of problem im a male so i will not encounter this problem but any way i was thinking is there any way that from eating food can causes the swelling, growth or whatever iis causesing this growth like an alergic reaction, like the body is taking what it needs it recieves it but it sdoing something else with it.

sorry for the anoyence but just figured i throw sometihng out there to help get the possiblities flowing, because i know first hand some illness people experience are caused from the body doing something wrong and not bacteria or viruss. like asthma.
Though i am afraid, i will face it head on without fail. + Family is is priceless, something jewels wil never be. + One day i will awaken and revert to my true nature.
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Postby Final_King » Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:53 pm

ok ive jsut realized your all on diets ok well maybe you should say the name of the diet and what you do maybe if there is a common thing among the diets, we can figure out "or you guys as of im not on much " you can try eliminate it from your diets and see what happens.
i know this sounds crazy. but you klnw that old proverb,

Its so crazy, that it just might work.
Though i am afraid, i will face it head on without fail. + Family is is priceless, something jewels wil never be. + One day i will awaken and revert to my true nature.
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Solutions?

Postby TT » Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:46 am

I'm another sufferer of the dreaded bloated stomach. Same as so many others here - by mid afternoon, I feel awful, stomach distended etc.
I'VE TRIED THE FOLLOWING THAT HASN'T WORKED FOR ME:
1. Weight / fitness - Lost weight and am now extremely fit,
2. Daily ab exercises in the hope it was weak stomach muscles
3. A "healthier diet" such as more fibre, fruit & vege, less sugar.
NEW THING I'M TRYING
4. Supplements - I've just started taking magnesium, vitamin B, vitamin C - too soon yet to tell
HAVEN'T TRIED
5. Elimination diets
6. Herbal drinks,
7. Degas medications
Note that I'm still fit etc (points 1,2,3) and won't stop those
PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF ANYTHING WORKS FOR YOU. THANKS.
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Postby wiseman184 » Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:00 pm

I also suffer from bloating and stomach discomfort, weight gain. I do not eat junk food and actually eat very little each day. It all started about one and a half years ago. I had been watching my carbs intake for a couple of years. Stayed slim and had no problems. Over a period of one week I developed bloating and severe pain. Doctor said it was gallstones and removing gallbladder would eliminate bloating. After the gallbladder was removed, I suffered worse bloating then ever before and have been suffering with it on a daily basis. I have tried many different things and nothing seems to work. I am going to try the candida thing now and see what happens. They say Candida can come from antibiotics and as I recall I took antibiotics the week before all my problems started. I am at a loss. This problem has consumed me and I am tired of it.
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Another possibility...

Postby ladykat324 » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:29 am

A gluten/celiac allergy or an STD may both be possibilities. What concerns me is what you said about elimination diets. Are you just referring to cutting out certain foods to test for a food allergy? Or when you refer to elimination diet are you referring to a diet to help clean out your colon? One possibility that you may have overlooked are parasites (worms) in your intestine. Tapeworms can distend the stomach making the afflicted person look pregnant. They can also cause other symptoms because they live off the nutrition that you eat. This can cause vitamin deficiencies and other problems. If your doctor hasn't ruled this out as a possibility, I would recommend that you ask for a colon cleansing and see if that helps. Most people are disgusted by it, but it is not uncommon for worms to come out in your bodily waste, along with other toxic substances that build up in your intestine, when you get a cleansing performed.
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Wait just a second...yeah...sounds like celiac disease

Postby ladykat324 » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:10 am

I just looked over my original post and realized something. You said you are gaining weight, not losing weight. That changes things a bit. Tapeworms can cause distention of the stomach, but they usually cause weightloss, versus weight gain. Since you said that you have weight gain along with the other problems, limb swelling, distended stomach, etc., it sounds more like celiac sprue disease than a possible parasite.

I work as a server in a restaurant that was one of the first to offer a gluten/celiac free menu in the U.S., so I am quite familiar with this allergy. People who have gluten sensitivity and/or celiac allergy both can't have products that contain wheat/gluten, such as bread, pasta, and crackers. People who have a gluten sensitivity usually can have products that contain very small amounts of wheat. People who have celiac sprue cannot have any product that contains even trace amounts of wheat. This is a big problem because there are trace amounts of wheat in many products. Even sauces like ketchup, soy sauce, and cocktail sauce are big issues because they usually contain starch (wheat product) as a stabilizer or they contain food additives or preservatives that have wheat products. These products can even be in very odd places, like the adhesive on stamps or envelopes, in your vitamins, or in some medicines. The swelling that you described from your stomach is your immune system damaging your intestine! The other swelling that you described in other parts of your body is a hive reaction to the allergy. If a number of the following symptoms sound familiar, I would recommend immediately switching to a completely celiac free diet.

Gas, recurring abdominal bloating and pain, chronic diarrhea, constipation, pale, foul-smelling, or fatty stool; weight loss/weight gain, fatigue, unexplained anemia (a low count of red blood cells causing fatigue), bone or joint pain, osteoporosis, osteopenia, behavioral changes, tingling numbness in the legs (from nerve damage), muscle cramps, seizures, missed menstrual periods (often because of excessive weight loss), infertility, recurrent miscarriage, delayed growth, failure to thrive in infants, pale sores inside the mouth called aphthous ulcers, tooth discoloration or loss of enamel, itchy skin rash called dermatitis herpetiformis.

Celiac disease is surprisingly common, but most people don't realize that they have it. It's a genetic disease, so you may have also transmitted it genetically to your child. The disease can sometimes lay dormant until some kind of stressor to your immune system kicks it into high gear.

Note: pregnancy, childbirth, surgery, viral infection, and in some cases extreme stress alone, can cause this immune response.

If you are found to have celiac sprue disease then you will have to read food labels closely, ask questions in restaurants, and be very, VERY careful about what you eat.
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Postby mith » Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:56 pm

The only gluten free restaurants I know of are in the Bay Area.
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Postby naybelline » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:29 pm

Hello.....

I can across this site by searching for bloating and pelvic pain etc....

I'm also having a similar problem.
I have pain on my left side in the pelvic area, it feels like a stretching pain but niggling also...but this pain isn't a constant one it comes and goes. I have alot of bloating that doesn't go down through-out the day, doesn't matter what I eat or if I don't eat it will still bloat up like I'm with child.
Also when I orgasm I get pain on my right side which isn't pleasant.
I have put on 14 pounds in weight in the last few months.
I feel very miserable. I hope maybe someone could shed some light on what could be wrong.

Much appreciated.
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Hmmm....

Postby ladykat324 » Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:16 am

Hey Mith. I live in New Jersey, and the restaurant company I work for is a chain, but they only operate on the east coast. I wish I knew more about restaurants in other areas of the united states that are gluten free. Most restaurants overlook gluten allergies or allergies in general, and most doctors don't know how to properly diagnose celiac disease because they are taught that it's rare when it actually affects millions of people.

Right now I'm kinda stumpted. I'm no doctor, but if I can provide some kind of information that might help someone, I'll provide it. In the end, there can be a number of reasons for the various posts about the abdominal bloating/pain/weight gain. It could be IBS, thyroid problems, STDs, endometriosis (which can cause fibroid cysts in various areas of the body including: pelvic areas, gastrointestinal tract, bladder, etc.), celiac disease, or any number of other GI disorders.

The specific symptoms can sometimes help your doctor, but symptoms alone can't always determine what disease a patient may be dealing with. Certain diseases are extremely difficult to diagnose (endometriosis in particular). The most reliable way to determine celiac is a biopsy of the small intestine, because blood tests can be inconclusive. Unfortunately, with endometriosis the most definitive diagnosis is surgery, which is invasive. Other methods of diagnosing endometriosis involve blood testing, MRI, ultrasound, or CAT scan. But even these methods can provide false negatives. Most GI disorders can cause major health problems, especially for women.

Here are some websites that might give some more information about some of these conditions:

This website gives info about various digestive diseases:

http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/a-z.asp

This website gives info about endometriosis (click on the banner What is Endometriosis):

http://www.endometriosis.org/

This article shows just how easy it is to misdiagnose conditions like celiac disease:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/200 ... liac_x.htm
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Postby mith » Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:36 am

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/news/slic ... oid=524089

Don't know much about this but here's a recent article.
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Pretty good article mith....

Postby ladykat324 » Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:50 pm

This is in general a very well thought out and well written article on celiac disease. It touches on a lot of important information, how many different products can have gluten in them, how diagnosis can be a problem because the symptoms can match so many different disorders, etc. There are only a few things that I should add that the article either didn't touch on, or didn't explain clearly.

With regard to how things get cross contaminated: The article explained how cross contamination can occur from using the same utensils/oil to cook a dish for a celiac allergic individual when they used that utensil/oil to cook something that contained gluten. Cross contamination can also be transmitted by hand contact from a gluten product to an item for the allergic person (this is why in my restaurant plastic gloves are used at all times and are changed when they get an allergy ticket) plus the utensils must be washed clean and WIPED DRY. This last point is very important. In the same way that oil can harbor traces of gluten, water can be a conduit as well. This is why the method that something is cooked is just as important as the ingredients used in the dish. Let me give an example.

If someone comes into my restaurant (it's a seafood restaurant) and has a severe shellfish allergy we can still serve them other food on the menu that is not shellfish (salmon for example) or an item on the menu that is not seafood at all (filet mignon). Most people would think, if you are severely allergic to shellfish, why would you go to a seafood restaurant and tempt fate? Well, as a company, we don't want to 1) turn away that person's business and 2) make them feel uncomfortable and that there is something wrong with them for having an allergy that they very well could've inherited genetically. Now this is where the preparation comes into play...that guest can order two side dishes with their salmon or filet mignon. They pick steamed broccoli and white rice. You as the server don't check with the kitchen manager or the front of the house manager to discuss any possible interactions for that meal. You serve the allergic guest their dish and watch in panic as they begin to choke. They aren't able to breathe and can't locate the epi pen in their pocket/purse. Congrats! You've just killed your guest. How did you do it? The broccoli and rice that you thought was fine because they aren't shellfish was contaminated in the steamer oven. It turns out that the restaurant steams its lobsters in the same steamer that steams the rice and broccoli. What can cause an allergic reaction is not only the offending object but the oils or juices that can come off it. So for nut allergies it would be the nut oils, in our example it would be juices from the lobster meat that get trapped in water molecules and are spread around the inside of the steamer. The same thing can happen if you wash the utensils, but then don't properly dry them. Wiping them dry with a clean cloth ensures that you are wiping away any last traces of the offending allergen. The reason this is especially important for celiac allergies is that the damage it causes is not visible (such as someone choking because of anaphylactic shock) but internal (in your intestines).

The other thing that bothered me was the part of the article that states:

"It's not clear whether ingesting gluten causes a person to develop celiac or simply triggers symptoms of the disease."

Then the author contradicts this statement a few pages later:

"It's also possible for a person to just be gluten-intolerant or have a wheat allergy without having the genetically linked celiac disease."

Let me be clear that celiac disease is a genetic disease. It can lay dormant until a stressor (surgery, pregnancy, childbirth, viral infection, or severe emotional stress) causes the immune system to weaken and then you may begin to experience symptoms. The difference between a gluten sensitivity and celiac allergy is the fact that with the allergy there is an immune system response and with the sensitivity there is not.

Since a person with a sensitivity does not have the allergic reaction, they may still be allowed to eat gluten in very small quantities. Just how much we still don't know and requires further research. This is why my chef can educate a guest about the possibility of some kind of reaction with a sensitivity but ultimately it is up to the guest whether or not they eat it. With a clear cut allergy, we have the right to refuse responsibility (note: refuse responsibility, NOT SERVICE) if we inform the guest that what they are ordering will definately cause an allergic reaction. This way both me and my restaurant are not legally liable if someone dies or gets seriously injured from our food, because we warned them first.
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Postby pokey all the time » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:00 pm

I have been reading several of the messages regarding the same problem that has been bothering me for years. I also fell like I am pregant (and I'm 62).

I hate to accept invations out for the day or evening because I never know how large my stomach will look. I'm sure I have IBS, but have not discussed it with my Dr., Because I felt like I was just climbing on the latest band wagon of the latest disorder.

I was so surprised to hear how may of you have the same discomfort, I will try some of your ideas, and will keep in touch, for any updates.

Thank you again, for making me feel like I'm not going crazy, when I look in the mirror and think I look like I'm about to give birth.
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