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Postby alextemplet » Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:17 am

supersport wrote:Why are you people denying that unfossilized soft tissue...ie proteins, blood vessels, cells, etc have not been found embedded in dinosaur bones?


I never said they haven't been found; only that they can be preserved under the right conditions.

supersport wrote:So tell me, do you really think soft tissue could last for 70 million years without fossilizing or disintegrating?


Where in that article did it say that the tissue hadn't been fossilized?
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Postby supersport » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:16 pm

alextemplet wrote:
supersport wrote:Why are you people denying that unfossilized soft tissue...ie proteins, blood vessels, cells, etc have not been found embedded in dinosaur bones?


I never said they haven't been found; only that they can be preserved under the right conditions.

supersport wrote:So tell me, do you really think soft tissue could last for 70 million years without fossilizing or disintegrating?


Where in that article did it say that the tissue hadn't been fossilized?


how could soft, flexible tissue containing proteins be fossilzed (ie..turned to stone?)

And I don't know about that particular dinosaur, but there have been dinosaurs found in alaska not completely fossilized.
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Postby alextemplet » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:05 pm

supersport wrote:how could soft, flexible tissue containing proteins be fossilzed (ie..turned to stone?)

And I don't know about that particular dinosaur, but there have been dinosaurs found in alaska not completely fossilized.


Why couldn't they be fossilized? The process would just have to occur much faster than normal, before those tissues had time to decay. As for dinosaurs not completely fossilized, I'd like to see evidence on that one.
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Postby AstusAleator » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:26 pm

Hmm I wrote an incredibly witty post in this discussion last night, but something must have bugged out and it didn't get posted :(. That makes me a sad panda.
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Postby Linn » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:56 pm

quote]supersport wrote:
There are no ape fossils that transition into human fossils.



Completely untrue. Read either of the above-mentioned books or, better yet, Stephen Jay Gould's The Book of Life for some useful information on human ancestors. [/quote]

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Postby alextemplet » Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:57 pm

AstusAleator wrote:Hmm I wrote an incredibly witty post in this discussion last night, but something must have bugged out and it didn't get posted :(. That makes me a sad panda.


It's okay. I'll be a sympathetic panda and give you a panda-hug. :wink:
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Postby alextemplet » Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:58 pm

Linn wrote:quote]supersport wrote:
There are no ape fossils that transition into human fossils.



Completely untrue. Read either of the above-mentioned books or, better yet, Stephen Jay Gould's The Book of Life for some useful information on human ancestors.


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I do not have that book and was wondering if you mind writing which
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Thanks :D[/quote]

Ugh, that book is currently at my friend's apartment and I was just in his town this morning. Oh well, I'll see what I can find for you.
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Postby David George » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:35 pm

I believe the Bible as well, but Genesis seems to be remarkably compatible with evolution, doesn't it? And perhaps God caused Adam to evolve from an ape-like ancestor, and then Adam committed his original sin, and then from him came all of humanity? Scientists have found genetic evidence of Eve's existence, so why not Adam as well?


wow but was that eve by any way of negroid origin.Sure the religious freaks would never agree to that.The Jews who started your religion would feel very insulted of that fact.
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Postby alextemplet » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:17 pm

David George wrote:wow but was that eve by any way of negroid origin.Sure the religious freaks would never agree to that.The Jews who started your religion would feel very insulted of that fact.


Um, no they wouldn't. Everyone already understands that humanity originated in Africa. Nobody's going to be insulted by that.
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Postby David George » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:43 pm

I donot think so Alex a huge number of them cling on to say that the scientific facts are false.I am studying Bio Tech course and still find a huge number of them not accepting evolution[in my class]!!!!!
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Postby alextemplet » Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:04 am

You're going to find that all over the place. There's all kinds of anti-evolution people out there. I think most of them are just plain misinformed.
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Postby genemachine » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:38 pm

supersport wrote:kclo4x, I'd like to hear your "proofs" evolution.

1) I believe the Bible is true and that Jesus Christ died on the cross for all of mankind. If Jesus Christ died on the cross, then this validates Adam's original sin. If, however, man evolved from worms, then there was never an original "Adam"...thus no original sin that condemned mankind.....this, in turn, invalidates any reason for Jesus to die on the cross.

This is actually a very common fallacy people make when trying to provide a proof for something. An assumption is made that is unproven and on this assumption a proof is provided. This renders the whole argument invalid. Your unproven assumption is: Jesus died on the cross to wash off people's sins originated by Adam.
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