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Postby zeam9 » Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:19 am

many have related being gay to endocrine disrupters. (IE- lesbian seagulls) endocrine disruptors are of course a biological disposition, not a choice. I have observed many children display traits of homosexuality at a young age, even more than normal, or not just knowing better, and turn out to be homosexual in adult life. Very interesting debate...
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Postby loveangel » Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:15 am

i agree with dr. stein, it has something to do about the environment, like for example perhaps that person was surrounded or living in a place full of females, then being influenced by them.... or some, like in a boarding school for boys only, they could feel, due to their surrounding, full of boys that the person possesses a feeling same as the females...
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Postby ArtificialAngel » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:18 pm

i'm not if this is true or not but i think that there is some kind of chemical in the brain that i guess trigures someone to be attracted to the same sex. Now to add to that, that chemical (or something) is there because it is written in that person's genetic material. So like those who are heterosexual (i think thats how u spell it) do have this chemical, or it could be the other way around like those who are homosexual don't have this chemical in the brain to say say that they are heterosexual.

maybe. lol
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Postby Funny_chap » Thu May 24, 2007 6:23 pm

Ally wrote:I dont believe people can be born gay. Its a choice. A very sick choice. People were not meant to be with their own genders. Its just wrong!

I agree but i wouldnt go as far as calling it sick because that causes massive backlash.

But its obvious men and women were created for a reason

If people were meant to be with their own genders why didnt we all get given the organs to deal with the offspring.

Can you understand what im saying here???

I apologize to all homosexual men and women that may be angered by reading this post. This is not an attack on a sexuality but my own view.

p.s - I read somewhere that a pregnant mother being exposed to certain plastics may give birth to a gay child, could anyone elaborate
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Postby david23 » Fri May 25, 2007 2:27 pm

If the monomers of these plastics resemble the structure of a particular hormone, then it might do something.
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Postby dr. dugmore » Sat May 26, 2007 12:08 am

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Ally wrote:I dont believe people can be born gay. Its a choice. A very sick choice. People were not meant to be with their own genders. Its just wrong!

I totally disagree with the it would be a sick choice. Like this post you state that being gay is like an afful disease and the nazis in the second world war thought the same .... :evil: (i don't like this kind of statements)

I'm not gay, but yes environment plays an important role. But i've read something that gays have higher levels of oestrogens than testosteron. So i believe people can be born gay.

hmmmm, depends which way you look at it, some say gays are pointless, they cannot breed or continue the human race, in a sence they are a waste of space and genes.
others say that everyone has a right to love another.

i have no opinion on this topic
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Postby thoughtudied999 » Sun May 27, 2007 4:03 pm

Ally wrote:I dont believe people can be born gay. Its a choice. A very sick choice. People were not meant to be with their own genders. Its just wrong!

I don't mean to start anything, but that is extremely ignorant. I'm not gay, but I do support love, whether it be between man and woman, man and man, or woman and woman. If they want to be with each other, more power to them. I'm sure they see your heterosexual relationships as sick.


I think that people are born gay as a result of a genetic mutation. I don't see how a male can be born in a household filled with alpha males and traditionalists and turn out gay. It just doesn't make sense to me.
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Postby mith » Sun May 27, 2007 7:15 pm

Gays don't necessarily see heteros as being sick(I live close enough to SF to know).

And you might want to look up some psych theories
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All this ignorance about homosexuality

Postby hickers » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:28 pm

These are the most UN scientific based responses imaginable. I really thought this forum was about science. I am a gay man.. I don't have any gay uncles.. I wasn't molested as a child... I am quite "Straight" in appearance and actions... I have more than adequate levels of testosterone... I am not effeminate in any way.. Let's see.. is there anything else... oh yes... my existence is quite quite contributions to society are very important and we really have enough people going forth and multiplying that not all of us need to!! There!! That feels better!
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Postby ReggieLynch » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:34 pm

There is a strip that goes down the center of the brain and controls the way the hemispheres communicate with each other. in men its thick, in woman it is thin.

In a gay man it is thin and in a gay woman it is thick. It can be biological or environmental, but that is the closes biological reason we have. that is also why some gay woman look and act more like men and vice versa.

The strip theory is also being used to explain female serial killers and there more masculine behavior. Aileen Wuornos is a good example of this. She killed truck drivers in Florida in the early 90's. She acted very masculine and was more attracted to woman than men, although that can be attributed to her background with sexual abuse as well.

But after she was executed they did a full autopsy and found that the strip in her brain was thick.

I guess alot of it has to do with the person's background and experiences but there is a biological reason for this that does lead, at least me to believe that yes you can be born with the mind of the opposite sex and therefore in the "Wrong body."

And before anyone jumps at me, I only speak for me.
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Postby fscottdahlgren » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:55 am

Well, maybe you should try asking a gay person instead of asserting you know their thought processes. Also, be careful when describing another individual's development as having problems, being improper, etc. If the Nazis won, then everyone with dark hair would have a development problem. Its just different. Leave your value judgements for yourself.

Oh, and there are countless examples of homosexuality in nature, including our nearest relatives.
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Postby ReggieLynch » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:58 pm

I wasn't implying that I know any of there thought processes although I probably should have left out that thing about Aileen wurnose, I only added that because I think it is interesting. My apologies if I offended anyone.

The strip theory is just that a theory, but i think it explains at least in the female a part of why they may be strongly attracted to the same sex. I do know that monkeys sometimes resort to homosexual behavior at times, but not strictly as it isn't beneficial to procreation.

I don't think that it is a choice as everyone that I have known to be attracted to the same sex, myself included to a point has stated that they always felt that way and always knew. I don't agree that it is an imbalance in the brain as that points toward a dysfunction, but I also don't think that it is entirely circumstantial because one of my best gay friends had a pretty "White picket fence" childhood.
I do however think that it is everyones right to do as they please in the sense that if that is what makes you happy that that is you basic human right.

And before anyone of strong belief jumps on me no that doesn't mean I condone murder or pedifiles. Just your right to be happy with who you love.

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