Discussion of everything related to the Theory of Evolution.
Thats a fair statement, I agree with kotoreru.
~ George washington Carver
Okay, narrowstaircase, you correctly assess in your last statement that we disagree over the primary basis of belief in God.
And, okay, this can be the "end of it" for you. But your ending does not end my own position, which I maintain is NOT unfounded, as you assert.
You cannot know whether laws are malleable or not. You only can see them in the limits of your and your fellow humans' mortal lifespans in a shared, apparently consistent history of their accounting. This is why "laws" are OUR laws.
Laws do NOT define what is going on. They express what we humans percieve is going on. If laws did "define", then they would have to be written prior to the events they define, and this makes me ask, "Where, then, are they written?... , and by whom are they written?" This seems to assume a law maker above humans as a starting place, and this is NOT my starting place.
I believe that the aim of living is to understand. To understand, we have to know. To know we have to grasp. To grasp, we have to have someTHING to grasp. To have someTHING to grasp, we have to have it MOVING in a relationship of relationships with us. How best, then, can we understand? From this (my) point of view, it is through a flexible model of reality that relates to some universal metaphor of our experiences,... which can be used to tweak our current laws towards a better plane of understanding.
Okay,... this can be MY "end of it".
For all those linns and kotorerus and alextemplates I meant religion as a drug meaning medicine which means you think its good it is [although sometimes it isn't] if not it isn't.Remember medicine with side efect is religion.
"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution"
I have been in a coma when i was allmost 16. I have been in a light and so on, a deathexperience or something. The docters thought i was dead first. They asked my parents for a codicil because they wanted to cut in me. My grandmother implied to take care of me some longer, and i started to come alive after a few days, weeks, months, years.
I know my spirit didn't die, but couldn't enter my body for the whole, because of insuries and medication/drugs. So my body was partially dead, but not my spirit. It was a strange experience, and i know for sure 'God' doesn't excist. I did feel a judgement and great powers. More like the moslims say; allah oe akbar, or something. 'Thanks', to all the big powers around us.
Now more and more people with different gods in there lives start to live together with other people with their gods, now we learn to collied our gods i think. In a year or 50 we will find a godmixture maybe. If a lot of people want to, we will. [/url]
I believe that God and evolution are both right and work with one another and not against.
Humans know that they have evolved from single cell organisms, we have proven it and we can file this as truth.
Now lets move over and take a look at parenting. We start as a single cell, an egg. and another single cell, the sperm and we evolve from this into a human being. So it is safe to say that our parents gave us the conditions to become a healthy human being
And in comparison God did the same by giving us the right climate and conditions to evolve into healthy human beings
To me evolution is the how, and God is the answer to why. I guess it all depends on how you look at it. You cant deny proven fact and you also can't deny religious belief.
In the older religions like true "Voodoo" That was very heavy into science they had explanations as to how things work but the why always came back to God or divine intervention.
To me there is no reason why the two can't be one in the same or have an equal hand with one another.
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