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Postby i_r_e_d » Mon May 07, 2007 2:39 am

kotoreru wrote:lol it usually has, don't take it to heart ;)


SHH!!! Don't tell anyone!!! Its a secret.... :shock:
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Postby robertkernodle » Fri May 11, 2007 7:12 pm

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Well,... I found ... THIS

Anyone care to join me in taking time to read it and share your reaction?

Yours truly,

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Postby kotoreru » Fri May 11, 2007 7:29 pm

I must admit the only part of that I read was the summary paragraph, and that was for good reaon (to my mind). Really; blaming catatrophic event frequency increases on the interstellar medium??

Life on Earth has been going for around 3.5 billion years(?). Seems very convenient that these Earth-altering changes from the Beyond should start appearing just as Humans become able to detect them...
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Postby robertkernodle » Mon May 14, 2007 8:11 pm

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Why so strange? Cave men did not have the technology or model development to percieve such possibilities. Certain realizations hinge on the technology timeline, where instrumentation and convergence of enough human experience mounts up to bring forth such awareness.

Strange that we should be moving our bodies at 60mph only now, since the wheel has been around for thousands and thousands of years. :)

Is that a mis analogy?

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Postby kotoreru » Mon May 14, 2007 11:21 pm

You misunderstand me, Robert.

Realisation (or observation) and emergence of a thing are seldom tightly coupled. It's like going back in time and just happening to be looking at the first cell to engulf another and form the mitochondrial symbiosis we all exist upon, JUST as it happens.

Basically: what are the odds?

I suppose these interstellar disruptions brought about the end of the dinosaurs...

Gah, forgive my closed mind.
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Postby robertkernodle » Tue May 15, 2007 7:40 pm

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I simply am suggesting that these forces might have been in operation all along, but our technological and intellectual power could not discern them.

Maybe these other alleged cosmic forces (dare I say "astro-ecological"?) were part of the orchestration of past major climate shifts. Current climate shifts are not the only ones that have ever happened, we know.

I do NOT think that you have a closed mind, by the way,...

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Postby kotoreru » Wed May 16, 2007 12:16 am

Astro-ecological - excellent! Try it again on the minds of the time in 500 years or so lol

I do feel however that this particular article is more of an excuse than anything else - something the US Government would use to argue Climate change (much like they used Michael Crichton's new book, oh how we laughed...).
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Postby robertkernodle » Mon May 21, 2007 6:46 pm

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Do these numbers and arguments seem sound to YOU:

Anthropogenic CO2

and

Myth Busters

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Postby kotoreru » Mon May 21, 2007 9:16 pm

Those two pages made me do this: sigh. Loudly.
Really RK, where do you find this stuff?
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Postby robertkernodle » Tue May 22, 2007 6:34 pm

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So, K

Is that a sigh of dismay, a sigh of annoyance, a sigh of "who the hell do I believe?", a sigh of ...........??

The data duels seem unresolved to me.

We really don't seem to know for sure.

When we start weighing both sides, arguments seem strong either way.

I could see how this might cause a sigh.

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Postby James » Tue May 22, 2007 7:02 pm

The sigh was because its generally all rubbish.
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Postby kotoreru » Wed May 23, 2007 1:17 am

A quick look at the references section will reveal why I sighed. Rather too much of it is from UK universities...oh the shame.
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