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Postby London » Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:49 pm

to Canada (sorry, I cant ever remember your username correctly) and to maggie and frank too:

check this out....

Human development VIII
http://www.google.com/search?q=Human+De ... f8&oe=utf8
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Postby Frank N Stein » Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:50 pm

Anyone who is seeking medical attention from a licensed physician should contact Randy Yaskal. Her orginization has compiled a directory of doctors who recognize our disease and are treating Morgellons victims. Randy's newsletter below lists her contact information.
RANDY wrote:Fiber Disease Syndrome State/National Lab Project
Memo
To: Volunteers and Doctors
From: Rand B Yaskal
Date: 1/15/2007
Re: Our first NEWSLETTER

Dearest Volunteers and Doctors:

Hello and welcome to the State/National Lab Project for Fiber Disease Syndrome!

This is our first short monthly newsletter. This month we are concentrating on getting a doctor from each state to agree to take FDS patients.

Please volunteers, call as many doctors as you can from your state, not as a patient but as an activist. Ask these physicians if they are willing to take patients that have a yet undiscovered, undiagnosed autoimmune disease syndrome.

Tell the doctor that one of our doctors will call them and explain what research is being done, what has been found out and what protocols work thus far.

I have a file for each state and it will be compiled of those volunteers in that state that are helping with this project and the names of the doctors you have asked us to call. When you get a “bite” from a doctor willing to be opened minded, call me and give me their name, specialty and address. I will keep you informed of our progress each month.

If you are seeing a doctor that will take patients please let me know immediately. I require that you report back your progress once a week in a short e-mail addressed to CISFL2004_at_netzero.com
If you have done nothing for that week due to a busy schedule, please report that back to me too. Place in the Subject Line the Name of your State / Your last name so I can bring up the file and chart your progress. I have a folder for each state and will keep everyone informed about the positive progress of all involved. Please also include your phone number in the body of the letter along with your e-mail address.

When you have a caring doctor willing to talk to one of the main staff, we will get someone to call them. and explain the disease and the program. We will place the doctor in their state file or on http://netmedvisit.com whichever they prefer, so patients can find them.

Our goal is to get a computer, microscope, digital camera, nurse volunteer and digital voice recorder in each office so everything is captured on an electronic file. The next NEWSLETTER I will explain exactly how the program will be run and will include our Mission Statement.

Until then… be strong, be proud, be safe!

Randy Beth Yaskal
434-974-7128
cisfl2004_at_netzero.com
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Postby Frank N Stein » Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:54 pm

I suppose you conveniently missed this one huh MFC?

Frank N Stein wrote:
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject:

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MFC

I have another question for you. Do you own or take part in any commercial operations related to the Morgellons disease? If so, please allow me to state that I believe that there is no reason to automaticaly assume conflict of intrest on your part that may affect our discussions. I would like to compile as much data as possible regarding this matter so as to reach a valid conclusion.

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Postby Frank N Stein » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:06 pm

.......and like all liars, MFC tucks its tail and runs when confronted with truth.
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Postby Cyn-Cyano » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:07 pm

The Delphi Technique — What Is It?

The Delphi Technique was originally conceived as a way to obtain the opinion of experts without necessarily bringing them together face to face. In recent times, however, it has taken on an all new meaning and purpose. In Educating for the New World Order by B. Eakman, the reader finds reference upon reference for the need to preserve the illusion that there is "…lay, or community, participation (in the decision-making process), while lay citizens were, in fact, being squeezed out." The Delphi Technique is the method being used to squeeze citizens out of the process, effecting a left-wing take over of the schools.

A specialized use of this technique was developed for teachers, the "Alinsky Method" (ibid, p.123). The setting or group is, however, immaterial; the point is that people in groups tend to share a certain knowledge base and display certain identifiable characteristics (known as group dynamics). This allows for a special application of a basic technique.

The change agent or facilitator goes through the motions of acting as an organizer, getting each person in the target group to elicit expression of their concerns about a program, project, or policy in question. The facilitator listens attentively, forms "task forces," "urges everyone to make lists," and so on. While s/he is doing this, the facilitator learns something about each member of the target group. S/He identifies the "leaders," the "loud mouths," as well as those who frequently turn sides during the argument — the "weak or noncommittal".

Suddenly, the amiable facilitator becomes "devil's advocate." S/He dons his professional agitator hat. Using the "divide and conquer" technique, s/he manipulates one group opinion against the other. This is accomplished by manipulating those who are out of step to appear "ridiculous, unknowledgeable, inarticulate, or dogmatic." S/He wants certain members of the group to become angry, thereby forcing tensions to accelerate. The facilitator is well trained in psychological manipulation. S/He is able to predict the reactions of each group member. Individuals in opposition to the policy or program will be shut out of the group.

The method works. It is very effective with parents, teachers, school children, and any community group. The "targets" rarely, if ever, know that they are being manipulated. Or, if they suspect this is happening, do not know how to end the process.

The desired result is for group polarization, and for the facilitator to become accepted as a member of the group and group process. S/He will then throw the desired idea on the table and ask for opinions during discussion. Very soon his/her associates from the divided group begin to adopt the idea as if it were their own, and pressure the entire group to accept the proposition.

This technique is a very unethical method of achieving consensus on a controversial topic in group settings.




http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_process/acf001.htm
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Postby Cyn-Cyano » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:09 pm

The Delphi Technique — How to Disrupt It

Ground rules for disrupting the consensus process (Delphi Technique) — when facilitators want to steer a group in a specific direction.

1) Always Be Charming. Smile, be pleasant, be courteous, moderate your voice so as not to come across as belligerent or aggressive.

2) Stay Focused. If at all possible, write your question down to help you stay focused. Facilitators, when asked questions they don't want to answer, often digress from the issue raised and try to work the conversation around to where they can make the individual asking the question look foolish, feel foolish, appear belligerent or aggressive. The goal is to put the one asking the question on the defensive. Do not fall for this tactic. Always be charming, thus deflecting any insinuation, innuendo, etc, that may be thrown at you in their attempt to put you on the defensive, but bring them back to the question you asked. If they rephrase your question into an accusatory statement (a favorite tactic) simply state, "that is not what I stated, what I asked was… (repeat your question)." Stay focused on your question.

3) Be Persistent. If putting you on the defensive doesn't work, facilitators often resort to long drawn out dissertations on some off-the-wall and usually unrelated, or vaguely related, subject that drags on for several minutes – during which time the crowd or group usually loses focus on the question asked (which is the intent). Let them finish with their dissertation/expose, then nicely, with focus and persistence, state, "but you didn't answer my question. My question was… (repeat your question)."

Remember…

always be charming,

stay focused, and

be persistent.

Never, under any circumstance, become angry. Anger directed at the facilitator will immediately make the facilitator "the victim." This defeats the purpose which is to make you the victim. The goal of the facilitator is to make those they are facilitating like them, alienating anyone who might pose a threat to the realization of their agenda. [People with fixed belief systems, who know what they believe and stand on what they believe, are obvious threats.] If the participant becomes the victim, the facilitator loses face and favor with the crowd. This is why crowds are broken up into groups of seven or eight, why objections are written on cards, not voiced aloud where they are open to public discussion and public debate. It's called crowd control. It is always good to have someone else, or two or three others who know the Delphi Technique dispersed through the crowd; who, when the facilitator digresses from the question, will stand up and say nicely, "but you didn't answer that lady's/gentleman's question." The facilitator, even if suspecting you are together, certainly will not want to alienate the crowd by making that accusation. Sometimes it only takes one occurrence of this type for the crowd to figure out what's going on, sometimes it takes more than one.

If you have an organized group, meet before the meeting to strategize. Everyone should know their part. Meet after the meeting to analyze what went right, what went wrong and why, and what needs to happen the next time around. Never meet during the meeting. One of the favorite tactics of the facilitator, if the meeting is not going the way he/she wants, if he/she is meeting measurable resistance, is to call a recess. During the recess, the facilitator and his/her "spotters" (people who wander the room during the course of the meeting, watching the crowd) watch the crowd to see who congregates where, especially those who have offered measurable resistance. If the "resistors" congregate in one place, a "spotter" will usually gravitate to that group to "join in the conversation" and will report back to the facilitator. When the meeting resumes, the facilitator will steer clear of those who are "resistors." Do not congregate. Hang loose and work the crowd. Move to where the facilitator or "spotters" are, listen to what they have to say, but do not gravitate to where another member of your team is.

This strategy also works in a face to face, one on one, meeting with anyone who has been trained in how to use the Delphi Technique.

With thanks to Sandy Vanderberg, Peg Luksik and others
http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_process/acf002.htm
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Postby Maggie Mae » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:13 pm

Persons who are suffering with this scourge, don't be defeated into doing nothing....just as Randy is getting people calling her, I beieve that if everyone takes the time to call Defense Funds, Large Environmental Groups, espeically ones that despise genetically modified food, e -mail, copy and paste good articles from other blogs if you don't know what to say...leave on blogs...If we just stay here arguing and not attempt to get fair help, we are wasting time. My mom used to say "if he's bigger than you, pick up an equalizer" We have the net, phones, mail, voices, and lots of grocery stores, libraries, etc....to leave flyers in....Sooner rather than later, some big organizations will see we merit an investigation. They have their own independent labs, and scientists all over the world, and have loud lobbying voices, as well...Please anyone reading this, there is evidence that this is a chimera bacteria that has hyjacked our cells, much like our computers..... :wink: Please pay attention to the methods used to discredit us, the money being poured into news media that blows us off, and the people doing it....They have agendas that do not reflect the true nature of this entire group suffering....there are people selling vitamins, cremes, herbs, you name it, all with Morgellons attached to it...they are opportunists, but that is their capital right. Someone out there who has connections to members in any of the big groups that can come to our aid, please, make that phone call, get them here to this site and read how they are hell bent on breaking up the citizens afflicted and staving off lawsuits while they try to cover their butts. Anyone with a brain can see what manipulating is being done...and when was the last time you actually saw good honest reporting in the mainstream media....or a good KJV of the Holy Bible in a hotel room (RM!) So, we are not as pedigreed as some, however, we can think and deduct.....I think it would be a tragedy beyond human comprehension to see where this technology is going.....if we can do nothing at all but tell people, that is something!!!
Mm
Can you hear me now????
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Postby Frank N Stein » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:13 pm

Process for revealing scammers. Present the truth, and ask them to validate their claims.
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Postby Deena » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:15 pm

mfromcanada wrote:All newbies to this thread sould be aware that this thread is scam central for a number of scammers. FrankNStein has been the primary scammer here since December 20,2006. He returns here every few minutes to scam you intermittently.

BS:"My intent here has only been to push lies and deceit out of here al. "



SPOKEN THE TRUTH AND STANDS BEHIND THIS STATEMENT 100%
AS WELL AS I, DEENA STAND BEHIND THE TRUTH OF JESUS CHRIST, THE ONE AND ONLY SON OF GOD.
AND BEWARE OF MICROSOFT INSTALLATIONS ON YOUR SYSTEM THAT DO NOT CONTAIN THE MICROSOFT CIRCLED LOGO



I C FRANK BARFED BACK UP HIS DINNER THAT WAS CRAMMED DOWN HIS THROAT LAST NIGHT. I HAVE YET TO READ THE PAGES REPLACED FROM #589 UP....I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT I WILL C AFTER THIS POST I SUBMIT. I KNOW THAT I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR HERE AND NOW

I, DEENA...AGAIN, I AM FOR JESUS CHRIST ONLY.......CRYSTAL CLEAR BEAUTY OF TRUTH.
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Postby Deena » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:19 pm

London wrote:Frank,

Thank you for your answer......okay, You asked me a question with your answer back to me and I guess I would have to say yes.....now the following google I just took verbatim and easily came up with this list....

check it out!!!! Also, Frank, what;s your thoughts on that India transformation thing (Kundalini) I believe it was.....I would love to hear your thoughts regarding this. The symptoms and signs seem to match ours.

With re: to Tam's recent post (I'm talking like this last one) well, I have to tell you that indeed it seems legit. That is what I have been finding the last two months.....in other words all created in a lab....recombinate DNA-
computers and alpha/beta waves affectiong our cortex......voila and now one gets mental disorders via online.....I dunno though......what I do know is that gases have been pumped into my home ....prob. radioactive stuff too.....thinking cobalt, nickel,cadium here.....My gosh, every piece of sterling in my home is now black......could anyone explain this???

what we need is a radiation detector!

okay, blah-blah....here's the great google for ya.....

http://tinyurl.com/ymuys2


and here is one I googled earlier this morning....

http://tinyurl.com/y9kxh5

Thanks Frank....oh yeah, meant to ask you this: (and no offense Randy) but Frank are you aware that on that guys site (mark fr: germany) is also
Randy's name? It is on the contact us page.....Now, what is one to think?

Would love your opinion on this too....thank you dearly!

L-




NAH....MAGNETICS
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Postby Frank N Stein » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:22 pm

DiDja bomb that bong yet Deena?
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Postby Frank N Stein » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:24 pm

...or are you a spliff lady?
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