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Postby Barz » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:20 pm

Dear Randy,

Why would people want to post their real names and phone numbers on a web site? This advice is just totally irresponsible on your part.

Because you do post your information it just makes it that much more evident to me that you are a complete ass. I know what your response will be already, so just keep it to yourself about how great you are and that you are the only one blah blah blah. Why is it that when people who have suffered with this for years have all these horrible things to say about you and you completey disregard all of that? You always have a ready response to justify your actions because someone else was once again wrong.

Take a look at your posts and see if there are any patterns.

most respectfully,

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Postby standby » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:55 pm

standby wrote:Being that you indicated that you yourself were involved with the inseption of the internet, you would be the authority on the applicability of the phone line and the internet. Need I say more?


Frank,

I see you missed or stepped over this one.

Care to comment?

While you are at it maybe you could explain why when one changes their phone & tone it alieviates many annoying persistant problems with thier internet connection.
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Postby Frank N Stein » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:05 pm

Barz wrote:Dear Randy,

Why would people want to post their real names and phone numbers on a web site? This advice is just totally irresponsible on your part.

Because you do post your information it just makes it that much more evident to me that you are a complete ass. I know what your response will be already, so just keep it to yourself about how great you are and that you are the only one blah blah blah. Why is it that when people who have suffered with this for years have all these horrible things to say about you and you completey disregard all of that? You always have a ready response to justify your actions because someone else was once again wrong.

Take a look at your posts and see if there are any patterns.

most respectfully,

BARZ


I have already posted the reason why we all need to submit limited information to a reliable source Barz. It is so that if someone such as myself wishes to take some time off of work to sit down and discuss this with my Congressman, I can walk into his office with some valid data rather than just little Frank in my hand.

I strongly suspect that you are a Tam scam alias who by asking this question again are only attempting to discredit Randy and scare the sick.

Otherwise I could only regard you as a magnificantly ignorant person who has approached this thread with their fingers in their ears.
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Seeing is believing

Postby codon blue » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:27 pm

Greetings everyone, :)

I have a suggestion in regards to providing the "professional" community with some visible evidence to support our claims. (My close friends and family members were profound believers after I showed them this little "experiment").

It's really very simple, you only need three things:

1) A clean bowl or sink basin
2) Warm clean water
3) A blacklight source

First you will need to wash your hands thoroughly, but do not dry them on anything or touch anything. Be sure to scrub under your fingernails and roll your sleeves up. Then immerse your hands in the clean container of water, eliminate any regular source of light, and have someone turn on the blacklight and hold it close to the water. Next, begin rubbing your hands together underneath the water, especially the cuticles. You may have to do this for a few minutes, but white glowing fibers will be seen emerging from your hands under the water! Let's see the doctors deny that! :shock:

During the last couple of years, my condition has been in about 90% remission, since I finally realized and eliminated all sources of silica, silicone, siloxane, etc. . . from my life. Believe me, this has not been an easy task, given that almost every product I use contains some form of silica. From table salt to toothpaste, or cosmetics to cleaners, it seems to be everywhere and in everything. It takes me hours to go shopping, because I have to stop and read every cotton-picking (pardon the pun) label. Although it is definitely worth the effort.

Like some of you have mentioned, I also agree as to the importance of clean hygene. Plus I try to avoid heavy persperation and stress, as much as possible. I have also accepted the fact that I need at least 12 hours of sleep per day and that my diet must be a healthy one.

I wish I would have videotaped my little experiments back then when things were really flowing and glowing. Although the disbelievers would probably assume I had "doctored" my video tape. Well anyway, I'm not even sure my idea is plausible or feasible for any of you to utilize. But, regardless, I feel it is worth mentioning.

Whatever it takes to pin down the culprit and find a remedy, I am confident that together we form an intelligent and persistent entity, which will allow us to accomplish these goals.

Peace and Prayers,
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Postby Frank N Stein » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:33 pm

standby wrote:
standby wrote:Being that you indicated that you yourself were involved with the inseption of the internet, you would be the authority on the applicability of the phone line and the internet. Need I say more?


Frank,

I see you missed or stepped over this one.

Care to comment?

While you are at it maybe you could explain why when one changes their phone & tone it alieviates many annoying persistant problems with thier internet connection.


The applicability of the phone line is that it is used as access link into the public access router either by dial up ppp connection or a dedicated DSL carrier which is imposed on the copper local loop.

There is no such thing as changing you dual tone - muli frequency signalling. There are only standard tones that tell the public telehone switching system how to route your call. Changing your phone will have no effect upon you internet connection.

If you are asking this question in ignorance of telecommunications systems, that is your respectful answer.

If you are asking this to throw fear into people by asking pseudo-technical questions that imply that something sinister is afoot, I really don't think that's working here anymore.
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Postby mfromcanada » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:55 pm

Any moron can see that both randy and frankenstein have some reason to fell threatened by tamtam or else they would not be so defensive. They feel the need to impose their grandiosity onto others on this board. I for one am sick of having to read the insults. Why don't you people insult each other in private messages.
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Postby Frank N Stein » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:51 pm

mfromcanada wrote:Any moron can see that both randy and frankenstein have some reason to fell threatened by tamtam or else they would not be so defensive. They feel the need to impose their grandiosity onto others on this board. I for one am sick of having to read the insults. Why don't you people insult each other in private messages.


You are absolutely right mfc, any "moron" could see that. In fact that's what scammers rely on is finding people that they consider to be morons who act upon their emotional fears rather than logic. Now any logical person can see that my arguments are based upon logical observations, and bear merit as such.

If you read back on my posts, you will see that I haven’t defended anything. I am simply offering objective analysis to the Tam scam saga, and Randy’s offering of an organized physician referral service.

The problem that you have is that your scam is based upon suggestion, innuendo, and subjectivity. That's why you can only attack with emotional statements such as the ones displayed here. There is no solid objective logic to the Tam scam in over 500 pages, and you run for cover each time someone asks you to validate anything objectively.

Hey cheer up, there are plenty of good jobs out here.
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Postby Frank N Stein » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:08 pm

mfromcanada wrote:Any moron can see that both randy and frankenstein ......


That's pronounced "fronk en steen."

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Postby tamtam » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:53 pm

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Postby Frank N Stein » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:16 pm

Just in case you want to call them direct

Domain Name.......... chelationtherapyonline.com
Creation Date........ 2001-07-25
Registration Date.... 2001-07-25
Expiry Date.......... 2008-07-25
Organisation Name.... Vibrant Life
Organisation Address. 1831 N. Bel Aire Drive
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Burbank
Organisation Address. 91504
Organisation Address. CA
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Karl Loren
Admin Address........ 1831 N. Bel Aire Drive
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Burbank
Admin Address........ 91504
Admin Address........ CA
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... lct@oralchelation.com
Admin Phone.......... (818)558-7099
Admin Fax............ 818 558-7299

Tech Name............ Karl Loren
Tech Address......... 1831 N. Bel Aire Drive
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Burbank
Tech Address......... 91504
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... lct@oralchelation.com
Tech Phone........... (818)558-7099
Tech Fax............. 818 558-7299
Name Server.......... NS1.netnation.com
Name Server.......... NS2.netnation.com
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Postby al » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:35 pm

I tell you Frank, you are up to no good, as far as I can see.
I call on you to make a substantiated allegation, with proof.
Or give us eloquent phraseology incumbent with your intent.
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Postby al » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:44 pm

One more thing....

Is it possible for us all to either; drop the attitude, or come up with some

answers to the crux of the issue......

What is the most efficaceous protocol for treatment?

But to Franks defence, it is passing strange that we follow some-one, who

claims to know the treatment, but fails to disclose the etiology, hence

denying us mainstream treatments, causing the plethora of home

remedies.

Answers all round please......


Tam, how do you respond to the allegations levelled at you?

Are you in fact Borat of Kazikstahn?


Frank, lets have it please....proof please.



Let us keep our goals in sight, and our differences aside.

We need a "Gripe Protocol" to ensure we can avoid the folie de deux of

the last 20 pages.

Quite honestly, as a sufferer, and a member it is embarrassing to read,

concerning to reflect upon, as it seems to be a convoluted trail of

character assassination typical, indeed classically identifiable in its origin.

There, I have made an arcane, esoteric accusation of my own.



One shakes one's head in dismay, if this is the best we can do.



Good work to those who actually, proactively and publicly attempt to

bring light on a clear evil, even while often lambasted and ridiculed.

As I keep saying, independence of mind is yours to have, be people; not

sheeple.

I spoke to Randy on the phone, she is caring, sincere and kind.

Maybe at least, we owe it to ourselves to follow her example.



Well done.


P.s. found menthol vapour rub a boon, for upper respiratory easing, and

as a direct topical on the lesion.
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