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Postby standby » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:30 am

standby wrote:Will the Doctors who sign up on Netmedvisit be made aware of 'your' standard protocol to monitor all their email communications for a period of one year? Is your group even aware of this?




Randy wrote:There will be no e-mails from the site. Doctors will use their own private e-mails.

E-mails from the site are monitored for reasons which proved to be valid in the last case.

E-mails were being used for personal "affection" and not for medical advice which they were designed for. That was unprofessional and that is what I had to watch out for.

I told the parties involved to take it onto their own private e-mail and not use a profesional site for non-professional conversations.

And YES everyone is aware of that fact and why it is protocol if you use a NETMEDVISIT address.

Most companies record conversations of those that work for them for the same reason. A company needs to protect itself from unprofessional activity which can lead to legal matters.

In the last case it was not used for illegal drug prescriptions but I also monitor the site for that too.

It is my site and I will not place my site at risk. I am sure you can comprehend that simple fact.

E-mails are monitored to protect and insure professionalism. In the case you are talking about my point was proven. My actions confirmed to be valid.

Please know what the heck you are talking about before you make such a stupid uneducated comment which was only done so that you could try and devalue the effort we are making so that we can help get this disease figured out.

Don't you have anything better to do Leslie? Give up the hate already, would ya?

Randy


Interesting how the answer/explanation differs from your answer/explanation in the past. Let me refresh your memory and interject what you overlooked. Posting on Wineandroses indicated that you had threatened the Dr. you personally acquired for netmedvist with sexual harassement allegations. You did not deny making those allegations yourself but whole heartedly defended your protocol for monitoring his emails. What was heard thru the grapevine, which of course is purely hearsay, was that the emails did contain correspondance that indicated just the opposite of personal "affection" where YOU were concerned. I'm sure your enitial reaction was as sweet as honey, therefore the threat of sexual harrasement? More like a woman scorned and the sting and burn of full strength vinegar.

I find this statement below utterly amusing since my questions were valid concerns based on YOUR OWN PAST statements. Do you not remember your own statements (posts) and why you made them RANDY?:

"Please know what the heck you are talking about before making such a stupid uneducated comment which was only done so that you could try to devalue the effort we are making......"
No one needs to devalue any efforts WE make because you are quite capable of doing that on your own.

FYI... I'M NOT LESLIE!
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Postby standby » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:32 am

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Postby standby » Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:59 am

RANDY wrote:Here is what I want to do. .......................................


Now I have heard through the grapevine that Mary (MRF) may be following my lead and trying to duplicate what I have been posting and taking about. If that is true I wish she would mention it. Why duplicate when we are on the same side? If she wants to run a race with me, that is childish. I do not care to compete.

She knows what I am doing but she had a sheet of paper that if you wanted to be part of her group you had to promise not to talk to me. She had people sign that paper and that s the truth..my hand to G-d. I am not making this stuff up. That is how childish this has been for the last three years.


Again, I am not in competition with anything but this disease. I do not want it to win and populate the planet. We are so far behind in fighting it.

Randy



Youv'e got to be kidding. You really need to let go of your EGO Randy.

".......trying to duplicate you and what you have been posting." Where would Montel's perscription plan be without you? If relishing those thoughts gives you some personal impowerment and selfesteem so be it.

Have you ever considered there are individuals capable of rational thought process and organization?

NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS would ever suggest someone needed to sign a clause in reference to working with you pro or con. That is totally unprofessional and absolute B.S. However, it is totally understadable that if your name were to come up one would state their own personal disassociation with you point blank. Is Princess leah filling your head up with her paranoid misperceptions to the point YOU end up looking like a fool?

You say you are not in competition but continue to make statements that indicate otherwise. State your cause as you will Randy. Continue to do it by dissing others to make youself appear superior and you will get nowhere fast.
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Postby Frank N Stein » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:23 pm

I had not planned on returning to this site until after the holiday, but I have some thoughts that just won’t wait.

This is a very busy thread. It attracts hundreds of hits on a normal day. Therefore it has the potential to serve as a catalyst to assist those of us who know quite well that we have something wrong with our bodies, and would like some assistance towards identifying it, and perhaps treating it.

However, it is incumbent upon those of us who seek relief through discovery of the causal agent of this malady to acknowledge that there may very well exist some who wish to keep it hidden. Some have speculated that the source of infection is a man made agent that has infected our bodies. If this indeed is revealed as truth, certainly the developers of the infectious agent will seek to conceal its identity, and discredit those who seek discovery, in an effort to avoid liability for effects of their creation.

If this infection does indeed originate from a high tech biological source, who then would not wish that it be identified? Perhaps it would be:

1) Industrial corporations
2) Government regulatory and/or research facilities
3) Collegiate research departments
4) Insurance underwriters
5) Medical doctors who have misdiagnosed the infection

This is only a short list of very powerful entities whom I believe would wish to avoid liability for infecting the public.

I believe those who have been following this thread, and whom may also agree with what I have written above, may wish to consider whether or not the entities would seek to interfere with the normal course of discussion in this thread.

We know for a fact that some would maintain a disinformation web site such as http://morgellonswatch.com . The morgwatch blog editor claims that he is just a retired information systems technician who just happens to be so concerned that we have created a non-existent medical condition, that he would create and maintain an anonymous blog to address the issue. That’s about as credible as the stealth entity Tam Tam, who discredits our cause by continually presenting a thesis that a bacterium has formed proteins in our bodies that are intelligently forming butterflies within us without presenting validating data. Constantly presenting an abstract thesis anonymously, without providing data to support the thesis serves to discredit us just as effectively as any other method.

I stated in a previous thread that I intended to separate the schitt from the shinola. It really is time now for those who have been lurking here to determine who here is constructive, who is destructive, and become involved. This infection is not going to cure itself. As I have stated, the simple short term solution lies within yourselves, to enhance you immune system so that it may perform as well as possible for your age. However, the long term solution lies in identifying the cause of the symptoms, and developing a protocol of treatment. This may require forcing the issue before those who have the resources to perform these two tasks.

For those who are concerned about the disclosure of personal information, let me assure you that I don’t intend to submit my personal information to any person or entity without first obtaining a non-disclosure agreement that clearly defines how personal information is to be used. However, those who seek to elevate public and government awareness of this illness can not develop a presentation without validating data; otherwise they present themselves as nothing more than a Tam Tam without the anonymity factor.

For those who fear becoming involved here for fear of ridicule, please don’t let that concern you. It is only words and ideals that are presented here, and they can only do harm to your ego. If you set your ego aside, and develop a logical course of action to achieve your goals, you can not suffer harm in any way.

It would be well advised to take note of those who would oppose my position that there exist certain entities who would seek to discredit our cause.

I encourage those who seek to organize an effort to present our problem before the public and government representation to be tolerant of the wide range of ideals regarding this matter. Yet I also ask all of those who wish to participate in an organized effort to understand that unity, and a clear focus upon valid, clearly definable, and verifiable subject must be achieved to develop an effective presentation.

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Postby London » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:47 pm

Before you ask....my internet will not be cut-off until Jan.,2.....

No, I did not plan on coming back here, but I just wanted to share this new porphyrin (texas style) word with you guys. It just floored me. Here goes:

Dr. Sessler, who earned his Ph.D. in organic chemistry from Stanford, has been a member of the UT faculty since 1984. Dr. Sessler is a prolific researcher, writer, and inventor. The subject of his talk will be the texaphyrin molecule, which he created. Texaphyrins, bigger versions of porphyrins (natural blood pigments), are currently being tested as sensitizers for the radiation-based treatment of metastatic brain tumors, photodynamic control of recurrent breast cancer, and light-activated removal of arteriosclerotic plaque. College of Natural Sciences - Dean's Office


whoa!
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To FranknStein,

You seem to be most polite. I hope I may make a comment/question without it offending you-for that is not my intention.
Mr. Stein, you with your extensive background in the communications industry should be the expert in what these fiber optics are doing inside of us. One should know that not only are a lot of gov't agencies breaking the law, but violating the constitution as well.
I wrote Mr. Veejay Banjoree (?) an expert from UT austin today and my letter was on the direct side. I will share with you all his reply to me if I get one. hahahaha>don't hold your breath.
Let;'s see many computer graphics people now on the hate list as well as Texas Art teachers. Today I am purchasing a new lasor for myself and intend to shine the hell out of it onto neighbors that are up to no good.
(sorry Mr. Stein, I got a lil off point there....)
but Mr. Stein, if nothing else could you give your opinion on porphyrins being a major player in our disease. Also the tin whiskers as well. I bet you are a walking encyclopedia where this is concerned. And last thing, could you elaborate on any unsafety issues of the VOIP phone system and the white noise.....for this is exactly how I got this awful disease in me. Thanks Franknstein. I am aware that you might not write until after the new year begins.
Thanks Mr.Stein!


Randy, if you don;t mind, would you elaborate on something you posted a week or two ago...I;m just now seeing that post and find it breathtakingly fresh. It was regarding staying away from the computer-something about the fibers being sucked into the machine. Thank you if you can do so but understand if you can not.

London

Last thing.....I sincerely believe this is where one should focus their research.......

Photovolatics Research Using Semiconductor Quantum Dots

The world's need of carbon-free energy is estimate to growth by 2050 to 15 Terawatt of electrical power, the equivalent of 15,000 nuclear reactors. Providing this much clean energy could be achieved, in principle, by installing 20 square-kilometers of 20%-efficient solar cells every day for the next 43 years. Unfortunately, solar electricity is currently by about a factor of 10 more expensive then electricity from burning fossil fuels. Kortshagen's group works on new photovolatic techniques using quantum dots--small semiconductor crystals in the nanometer-size-range. The REU project will involve synthesizing such quantum dots with nonthermal plasmas, characterizing them with a range of microstructrual techniques, and integrating them into photovoltaic devices.


PS: to MSC, not that you need this but what the heck....
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6849730.html
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Postby mfromcanada » Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:34 pm

On August 21,2006 I sent a link to tamtams videos to Dr. Garth Nicolson who I believe in whole heartededly. He responded by saying "I have seen the video (from several sources), and I agree the contents are disturbing. I had thought all along that genetic engineering must be involved because of the properties of insect, bacteria, fungi and parasites present in this type of infection. I know of nothing like this in nature--not even close. Prof. Nicolson"
His partial CV is attached. I don't know whom Randy spoke with regarding tamtams videos and it does not matter to me because I trust Dr. Nicolson. I am not a biologist but by following his advice rather than any other doctors I have seen I have a least had some temporary relief from doxycycline. I would also like to state that I think tamtams videos show an outstanding display of what is infecting us and I have not seen anyone else produce anything like it. I would like to thank tamtam from the bottom of my heart for producing and publishing them. I suspect he actually knows who has created this and he is worried about his own safety. I am aware that fear can be a great motivator and I am also aware that governments use fear to promote their own desires such as war. I am glad to have this forum to voice my opinion and welcome any criticism. I am wary of people who have good intentions but because of their own stupidity actually do more harm than good. I would rather have proof before I waste a lot of time, money and energy running around in circles with people I can't whole heartedly support.


Garth L. Nicolson, Ph.D.
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Ph.D. Biochemistry/Cell Biology, University of California San Diego (1970); B.S. Chemistry, University of California Los Angeles (1965)
Founded IMM 1996

Dr. Nicolson is the President, Chief Scientific Officer and a Research Professor at the Institute for Molecular Medicine. He has over 550 scientific and medical publications, several of which are citation classics. He holds 9 U.S. patents. Formerly he was the David Bruton Jr. Chair in Cancer Research, Professor and Chairman, Dept. of Tumor Biology at the University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center, and he has held various other professorships including Professor of Internal Medicine and Professor of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine at the University of Texas Medical School at Houston and Professor of Comparative Pathology at Texas A & M University. He serves as Editor of two journals ( Clinical & Experimental Metastasis and Journal of Cellular Biochemistry ) and as an Associate Editor of 12 other medical/scientific journals. Dr. Nicolson has held several memberships of advisory and review committees and is currently a member of national and international committees in cancer research and other scientific programs. Besides many other awards, he was honored with the Stephen Paget Award of the Metastasis Research Society, the Outstanding Investigator Award of the National Cancer Institute and the Albert Schweitzer Award in 1998. He is member of various scientific societies and held offices in the American Association for Cancer Research and Metastasis Research Society. Under his supervision 36 postdoctoral fellowships and 17 Ph.D. theses were performed. Dr. Nicolson's interests are in the biochemistry and molecular genetics of cancer progression with particular interests in the areas of metastasis or spread of cancer, paracrine growth factors and invasion enzymes. He is a Colonel (Honorary) of the U. S. Army Special Forces and a U. S. Navy SEAL (Honorary) for his work on Armed Forces and veterans' illnesses. He is also engaged in research on the role of chronic infections in a variety of chronic illnesses, such as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia Syndrome, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Gulf War Illness and various autoimmune diseases.
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Postby J Jill » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:27 pm

Mf-

I share the opinion re: Dr Garth Nicolson and I'm happy to learn that you had communication w/him re TamTam's video.

Again, I feel that the problem with all of us- even those who are not yet aware that they have a problem- is in the area of Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus- which can be cured with Doxy according to Dr N.

Of course, as I stated in a prior post, there are a few more layers of dis-ease- the myco is just (IMO) the underlying pathogen.

Thanks for sharing- your news and opinions. I agree on all points you made!

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Postby standby » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:15 pm

Agree!

Garth Nicolson's responce was honest, direct and to the point and nothing other than professional. The man's perspective and recommendations for applicable treatment have been a guideline followed and trusted by many over the years. His responce only further reinforces my trust and respect for this man and his contributions.

Thankyou for sharing this.
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Postby Maggie Mae » Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:12 am

Good day, all....

Well, from the sounds of Randy's posts, I don't believe I will be getting a response from Mr. Rutz anytime soon. As far as being "respectful", I have dealt with the agencies first hand, and sweet as, I was....and niave, as well. Cost me loss of money and lots of time. I give them the respect I feel personally they deserve. If we were being treated respectfully, the CDC a/o Mr. Rutz would have been on this site posting something, even to say, "sorry for the delay, we're on it...."

Mm

I have a few questions still unanswered....

1. What is the light whispy fiber/fungus that grows insatiably on everything...my clothes, pillows, sheets, gloves, steering wheel, purse....leather coat, -they look like "baby" polymers? Bacteria?

2. If indeed T2 is correct about the chimera being used (plenty of info that validates) that would be understandable with regard to "it" being a stray target, that escaped from some lab\. However, after viewing the photos and listening to the audio on Renz, I am left wondering why then, was there a "probe" along with the stray target....did the probe escape as well? (I'm referring to "golden head" - that part is not chimera, it is a machine....)

I believe this was intentional, that we are under surveillance so to speak, and T2 doesn't elaborate on the second part...the little device...not the chimeric protein. Two different things going on there, I assume.

I am listing some links I have gathered over the past few days...a few, the pdf's may be slightly slow.
http://firstgovsearch.gov/search?input- ... biosensors

http://files.nanobio-raise.org/Downloads/scenihr.pdf - Europe Thinktank

http://www.ccatsandiego.org/FRpt_CoopAgreement.pdf - see M Vision and Eye tracking near bottom

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... id=9663340 - Tam Tam and chimera

http://jb.asm.org/cgi/content/full/186/ ... d=15060029 - techniques referred to by T2

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7110585.html -could someone elaborate on this? Do I understand that a computer could actually read what the sensors are seeing? What if we were the “substrate” and had metallic pixels all over us – especially the facial area? 2-way viewing? Just curious…

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0, ... _tophead_5

http://coli.berkeley.edu/ecoli/gene.txt - See anything here you can use, T2 ?? (e.coli)

http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/05/0613/5a.shtml

http://www.nanosphere-inc.com/tech/nano ... p?id=assay -click on the image

http://www.nanosphere-inc.com/tech/publications.asp - more from Nanosphere

http://www.google.com/search?q=polymers ... CGGIH%3Aen - good info on skin experiments and polymers
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Postby London » Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:53 am

oh my gosh, of course the NSF is behind this but still, take a look at the humanoid
Hanson Robotics of Dallas recently won a $1.5 million grant from the Texas Emerging
Technology Fund to commercialize what some are calling humanoids. Founder David Hanson
(36) will present his most advanced work at nanoTX'07, the world class nanotechnology
conference and trade expo held during International Nanotechnology Week October 3-4,

Dallas, TX (PRWeb) December 13, 2006 -- Having been called a "stealth robotic invasion," the latest crop of
MEMS and NEMS, coupled with a patented life-like artificial skin, are giving us machines that look and act
human. Hanson Robotics of Dallas recently won a $1.5 million grant from the Texas Emerging Technology Fund
to commercialize what some are calling humanoids. These remarkable machines graphically demonstrate the
range and versatility that can now be achieved using MEMS and NEMS technology. Founder David Hanson (36)
will present his most advanced work at nanoTX'07, the world class nanotechnology conference and trade expo
held during International Nanotechnology Week October 3-4, A sample of what the Hanson
exhibit will reveal can be seen at the nanoTX web site under speakers, Semiconductor/MEMS/NEMS,
content=speakersSemi, scroll down to Hanson's head shot
and bio for the link. Then at nanoTX'07 "come up to the lab, and see what's on the slab."
Presented by the Texas Nanotechnology Initiative (TNI), nanoTX'07 continues the theme: The Promise of
Tomorrow -- The Business of Nanotechnology.
According to TNI President Kelly Kordzik, an Austin patent attorney with Fish & Richardson P.C., nanoTX'07
will draw the top minds in four vital and interrelated nanotech areas of commerce: Semiconductor/MEMS/NEMS,
Defense/Homeland Security/Aerospace, Biomed/Health Sciences and Energy/Chemical/Environment, plus an
intense study of Trends/Finance/Investing by leading experts of industry. "This has proven to be the
nanotechnology event of the highest quality," says Kordzik.
Also planned for nanoTX'07 will be a greatly expanded Energy Summit. Four weeks after close of the last
Energy Summit at nanoTX'06, one of the world's largest nanotechnology conferences, organizers say findings call
for new, aggressive collaboration between government, industry and science.

OKAY, here's the link, .....when it opens, scroll down to the photo of the 3rd guy and read the small write-up, then click onto it and it will show you the "thing".

http://www.nanotx.biz/index.php?content=speakersSemi

was that not a trip???????????????????
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now here is what is going on-straight from the horses mouth.(NSF) ...simple- all of our electronics are tainted!!! optioelectrical gadgets....from your media player to the copier (with the poison in the inks), to the lasers to the gallium arsenide semiconductors.....
just take a look:

http://tinyurl.com/y8gog3



MAGGIE, HERE - CHECK OUT THESE PHOTOS! mAKE SURE YOU CLICK ONTO THEM TO SEE THE WRITE UP.....

http://tinyurl.com/t4fmu

http://tinyurl.com/u2uqc

AND MY FAVORITE ONE:

http://tinyurl.com/yyupvc
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Postby London » Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:16 am

HERE YOU GO.....MIT AND CYBORGS> bridging the gap
(and this is from 1998 mind you...)

http://tinyurl.com/y5hy84

Freaks.....(Maggie, you may want to view it. It's on dreams...)

http://www.understandthemeaningofmydrea ... ournal.pdf
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Postby RANDY » Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:50 am

BY what you just wrote I know now that you must be the person who he wrote. I will not say a bad word about anyone regarding this situation or hurting anyones reputation. I know what happened, I know what the truth is and the matter was and has been closed for some time and all that I said was true.

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