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Postby Frank N Stein » Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:54 pm

Thanks Marcos. I was a human junk food ingestion machine for many years of my life.
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READ THIS ARTICLE CAREFULLY

Postby southcity » Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:02 am

Hello everyone. I just found this article. I highly recommend that everyone reads this as well. key word of the day is macroscopic. http://www.devicelink.com/mddi/archive/04/11/009.html

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A combined team of chemists and chemical engineers at Rice University (Houston) and the University of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia) has found a way to weave single-walled carbon nanotubes (SWNTs) into continuous MACROSCOPIC fibers. Applications could emerge in a number of sectors, including medical devices."

"As Boyd explains, “Nanoparticles act differently than their macroscopic counterparts, in ways that cannot be predicted easily. There is some evidence that nanotubes can be attached to DNA, but we just aren’t sure about toxicity concerns at this point.” However, he also says that superstrong materials that have conductive properties may be appropriate for devices such as artificial hearts, as long as the material is biocompatible."
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Postby mfromcanada » Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:34 am

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Postby RANDY » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:57 am

So guys have we found out what it is yet?

Anyways..attention to all those new to the forum..

I am heading a National/State project that should be 1/8 done by the end of January..I don't post or hang here cuz you can go dizzy from the circles this site goes in..but if you want to talk to someone that has had this for 18 years call me anytime 434-974-7128, list yourself if you want to help the project at 434-980-2757 or write me at my e-mail cisfl2004@netzero.com.

Project:
1) Find ONE doctor in your state that will take
patients
2) Give us their number as we will get the doctor that works with us to call them and tell them how they can participate.
3) Then we get the State Health Dept to send out a notice similar to what Georgia did..if you write me I can send you this letter, to all doctors.
4) Docs can list themselves for free on http://netmedvisit.com once we are up and running at full speed.
5) Patients go to doc that follows our strict protocol.
6) We gather info that goes to a central databank.
7) We write a paper and get a grant and Whala!

This will take some time since studies usually last about 5 years.

Nothing can move faster than this in reality.

Anyway..if you want to be involved and not just cut and paste your life away..contact me.

Also we are gathering up notes an dletters and medical bills and eviction notices etc...all the crude that happens to us and making one HUGE display hopefully that can me pieced together and pu back together when we go in fron t of the WhiteHouse for Fiber Disease Awareness Day.

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Postby Frank N Stein » Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:34 pm

OK, well that pretty much sums up most of what I had intended to ask Randy before I even had a chance to ask. The only other questions that I have at this time are:

1) Is anyone in your group working directly with, or in direct contact with the CDC?
2) Has anyone in your group determined the scientific classification or characteristics of the infectious agent?
3) Has anyone in your group developed a protocol to relieve or reduce the symptoms of the infection?

Even if the answers to all three of these questions are no, Randy’s post still has Tam’s quotations of Michel Du Fontaigne beat by nature of its open, honest approach to the subject.

Now Tam Tam, would you like to give this another shot?
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Postby RANDY » Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:08 pm

1) Is anyone in your group working directly with, or in direct contact with the CDC?

I talk to Dan once a month. The reason for the program is to be a thorn in the side of the CDC so they understand that their word will be challenged and that simply listening and basing thier results on dermatologists that have never seen a patient with our disease as being the last word is not gonna cut it and fact.

2) Has anyone in your group determined the scientific classification or characteristics of the infectious agent?

The group will consist of doctors , hopefully in every state on a fact finding mission to define the disease across the board using the criteria of WHAT IT IS NOT in order to define what it is. The direct answer to your question is "No."

3) Has anyone in your group developed a protocol to relieve or reduce the symptoms of the infection?

If you cal me I can tell you from personal experience and from talking to others what has helped. Once we complete our mission we hope to have a standard protocol but right now, different things work for different people depending on the stage that you are in.

Hope this helps.

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Postby standby » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:02 pm

RANDY wrote:
I am heading a National/State project that should be 1/8 done by the end of January.

Project:
1) Find ONE doctor in your state that will take
patients
2) Give us their number as we will get the doctor that works with us to call them and tell them how they can participate.
3) Then we get the State Health Dept to send out a notice similar to what Georgia did..if you write me I can send you this letter, to all doctors.
4) Docs can list themselves for free on http://netmedvisit.com once we are up and running at full speed.
5) Patients go to doc that follows our strict protocol.
6) We gather info that goes to a central databank.
7) We write a paper and get a grant and Whala!

This will take some time since studies usually last about 5 years.

Nothing can move faster than this in reality.


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Will the Doctors who sign up on netmedvisit be made aware of 'your' standard protocol to monitor all their email communications for a period of one year? Is your group even aware of this?
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Postby befour » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:14 pm

http://iai.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/66/12/5955

Filarial Nematode Parasites Secrete a Homologue of the Human Cytokine Macrophage Migration Inhibitory Factor
Diana V. Pastrana,1 Nithyakalyani Raghavan,1 Peter FitzGerald,2 Stephen W. Eisinger,1 Christine Metz,3 Richard Bucala,3 Robert P. Schleimer,4 Carol Bickel,4 and Alan L. Scott1,*
Department of Molecular Microbiology and Immunology, School of Hygiene and Public Health, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland 212051; Division of Computer Research and Technology, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, Maryland 208922; Department of Clinical Immunology, Asthma and Allergy Center, School of Medicine, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland 212244; and The Picower Institute for Medical Research, Manhasset, New York 110303


Received 7 May 1998/Returned for modification 19 June 1998/Accepted 10 August 1998

Filarial nematode parasites establish long-term chronic infections in the context of an antiparasite immunity that is strongly biased toward a Th2 response. The mechanisms that lead to this Th2 bias toward filarial antigens are not clear, but one possibility is that the parasites produce molecules that have the capacity to proactively modify their immunological environment. Here we report that filarial parasites of humans secrete a homologue of the human proinflammatory cytokine macrophage migration inhibitory factor (MIF) that has the capability of modifying the activity of human monocytes/macrophages. A cDNA clone isolated from a Brugia malayi infective-stage larva expression library encoded a 12.5-kDa protein product (Bm-MIF) with 42% identity to human and murine MIF. MIF homologues were also found to be expressed in the related filarial species Wuchereria bancrofti and Onchocerca volvulus. Bm-mif was transcribed by adult and larval parasites, and the protein product was found in somatic extracts and in the parasite's excretory-secretory products. Immunohistocytochemistry revealed that Bm-MIF was localized to cells of the hypodermis/lateral chord, the uterine wall, and larvae developing in utero. Unexpectedly, the activities of recombinant Bm-MIF and human MIF on human monocytes/macrophages were found to be similar. When placed with monocytes/macrophages in a cell migration assay, Bm-MIF inhibited random migration. When placed away from cells, Bm-MIF induced an increase in monocyte/macrophage migration that was specifically inhibited by neutralizing anti-Bm-MIF antibodies. Bm-MIF is the first demonstration that helminth parasites produce cytokine homologues that have the potential to modify host immune responses to promote parasite survival.


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* Corresponding author. Mailing address: Department of Molecular Microbiology and Immunology, School of Hygiene and Public Health, Johns Hopkins University, 615 North Wolfe St., Baltimore, MD 21205. Phone: (410) 955-3442. Fax: (410) 955-0105. E-mail: ascott@jhsph.edu.



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Postby Frank N Stein » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:30 pm

Thank you Randy. Your posts have been very informative.

My recommendation is that everyone find a way to work together in a cohesive effort to resolve the mystery of this affliction, and bring comfort to those who suffer. If Tam Tam is a sincere researcher, I would recommend that he/she contact Randy and work with her.

I have worked in the field of data telecommunications for my entire 32 year professional career. Over the course of my career, I have served many elements of local, state, and federal government. From my base of experience, which includes multiple conflicts with government entities, I can tell you that if you approach the CDC with any degree of intimidation, they will circle the wagons and shut you off from their process of research. Your only recourse then would be a high profile media campaign accompanied by redress before the courts and elected officials. It is a given that the CDC will hold the interests of industry and the medical profession in very high regard.

The medical profession has already placed themselves in a precarious position of legal liability by misdiagnosing us as delusional. One suggestion that I would make, is to survey your group to see how many would be willing to waiver liability for past misdiagnosis from MDs in return for their co-operation. Perhaps you could even support a petition before the courts to absolve the medical profession of past liability. If this would help to move the discovery process along very (and I do mean VERY) quickly, then my opinion is that it would be well worth the effort and compromise. I for one believe that it would be quite foolish for any of us to agree to waive any liability for future damages or injury.

I strongly recommend that all concerned parties begin to think and act proactively and constructively, rather than reactively and destructively.

It may take a few weeks to catch up professionally following the holidays, but I do intend to call you. Thank you for your efforts to unveil this mystery, and bring relief to the suffering Randy.
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Postby RANDY » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:40 pm

Will the Doctors who sign up on http://NETMEDVISIT.com be made aware of 'your' standard protocol to monitor all their email communications for a period of one year? Is your group even aware of this?



There will be no e-mails from the site. Doctors will use their own private e-mails.

E-mails from the site are monitored for reasons which proved to be valid in the last case.

E-mails were being used for personal "affection" and not for medical advice which they were designed for. That was unprofessional and that is what I had to watch out for.

I told the parties involved to take it onto their own private e-mail and not use a profesional site for non-professional conversations.

And YES everyone is aware of that fact and why it is protocol if you use a NETMEDVISIT address.

Most companies record conversations of those that work for them for the same reason. A company needs to protect itself from unprofessional activity which can lead to legal matters.

In the last case it was not used for illegal drug prescriptions but I also monitor the site for that too.

It is my site and I will not place my site at risk. I am sure you can comprehend that simple fact.

E-mails are monitored to protect and insure professionalism. In the case you are talking about my point was proven. My actions confirmed to be valid.

Please know what the heck you are talking about before you make such a stupid uneducated comment which was only done so that you could try and devalue the effort we are making so that we can help get this disease figured out.

Don't you have anything better to do Leslie? Give up the hate already, would ya?

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Postby mfromcanada » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:01 pm

Please also read or at least scroll down to see the pictures of mycobacterium marinum. It has a stage which looks like the shrimp shaped microorganism one can remove from the fiber disease lesions.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articl ... tid=302949
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Postby RANDY » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:01 pm

F&S:

Thanks F&S. You are too kind.

Dan Rutz and I talk each month or type back and forth. We have mutual respect for one another. I kid with him and tell him it is cuz I keep my friends close and my enemies closer. He believes that the CDC scientists want to figure this out. I was not sure about that fact through no fault of Dan and therefore decided to create my own program to keep them all honest. Once completed, this network can and will be in place for any other UNKNOWN diseases that may pop out of global warming and genetically engineered food products.

I have found that getting anyone on this site to pay any type of attention to what I am saying is useless. They are only concerned about cutting and pasting lots of disinformation and not actually doing anything. I come back here to give out my name and number to those watching the site but who are fearful of typing due to what they do to me. It is very sad.

Tam, I have found via my very good friends, who are quite brilliant in different fields, but mainly in science, who I have asked to read his posts and look at his videos inform me to ignore him and that his ramblings are those of an undeducated person in this field playing games with the posters for his own amusement. The posters do not see this although I have tried to warn them. They, for some reason think I am trying to compete with this poser. Nothing can be farther from the truth.

Please call me. (434-974-7128) I would love to talk to you. I too have worked with the government for over 17 years (I am an agency owner of a translation business with Federal/State contracts.) I too understand that you get more with honey than vinegar when it comes to dealing with government agencies.

With respect,

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