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Postby Systemic » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:45 am

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Another thought

Postby Systemic » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:47 am

Here's a thought.

If one of us lives in a "Hot Spot" area, maybe one of us could talk to the
County Coroner. Bet he might have a word or two about this crap. Maybe a word or two he/she would be willing to back up publicly.
Just a thought.
peace.....
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Postby Skytroll » Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:44 pm

Systemic, Nettimo, Tam Tam,

There are Bio SAFETY rules, now I do not believe they were followed. BSL - 3.

http://www.absa.org/resguides.html

For example look at this, this has exemptions and DNA recombinant can be performed when other agencies approve:

"The NIH Guidelines do not permit experiments involving the deliberate release of transgenics into the environment unless, as provided in Section I-A-1, another Federal agency has jurisdiction over the experiment and approves the proposed release. As part of overseeing adherence to the NIH Guidelines, IBCs should ensure that institutional policies and procedures prohibit the release of transgenic animals and plants into the environment when not otherwise Federally authorized. Further, institutions should ensure that investigators are educated about proper containment and disposal, as well as other aspects of the NIH Guidelines."

Who are these investigators? How do they have the extreme authority to release transgenics?

Maybe we need to investigate the Investigators. I am still asking, just what is it they investigate as far as DNA recombinants and and research.

How do they have the final say of what is released and what isn't?

more here and other BIOSAFETY Rules that are not being followed. We can find out here why they are now focusing on this.

http://www.absa.org/resguides.html

Maybe some letters to each of these? I am sure they know where releases happened and am sure these Investigators are letting go through some dangerous pathogens.

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Postby Skytroll » Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:55 pm

What are the exemptions? mmmmmmm

"Which experiments are exempt from the NIH Guidelines?
Experiments that employ recombinant DNA with the characteristics listed below are generally exempt from the NIH Guidelines and IBC review unless they also involve, for example,: (1) the deliberate transfer of a drug resistance trait to microorganisms that are not known to acquire the trait naturally, if such acquisition could compromise the use of the drug to control disease agents in humans, veterinary medicine or agriculture; (2) deliberate formation of recombinant DNA containing genes for the biosynthesis of toxin molecules lethal for vertebrates at an LD50 of less than 100 nanograms per kilogram of body weight, or (3) the deliberate transfer of recombinant DNA, or DNA or RNA derived from recombinant DNA into one or more human research subjects. Otherwise, per Section III F of the NIH Guidelines, experiments are exempt when they involve recombinant DNA that is:

not in organisms and viruses,

entirely DNA segments from a single nonchromosomal or viral DNA source,

entirely from a prokaryotic host including its indigenous plasmids or viruses when propagated only in that host or when transferred to another host by well established physiological means,

entirely from a eukaryotic host including its chloroplasts, mitochondria, or plasmids when propagated only in that host or a closely related strain of the same species,

entirely segments from different species that exchange DNA by known physiological processes, though one or more may be a synthetic equivalent; see Appendix A of the NIH Guidelines; or

not a significant risk to health or the environment as determined by the NIH Director; see Appendix C of the NIH Guidelines for a detailed listing.
Details on certain other experiments that may be exempt, as well as exceptions, may be found in Appendix C of the NIH Guidelines. "
SOURCE: http://www4.od.nih.gov/oba/IBC/IBCnihguidelines.htm

Maybe we will find our culprits here:

"TABLE OF CONTENTS
APPENDIX C. EXEMPTIONS UNDER SECTION III-F-6 vii
Appendix C-I. Recombinant DNA in Tissue Culture vii
Appendix C-I-A. Exceptions vii
Appendix C-II. Escherichia coli K-12 Host-Vector Systems vii
Appendix C-II-A. Exceptions vii
Appendix C-III. Saccharomyces Host-Vector Systems ii
Appendix C-III-A. Exceptions ii
Appendix C-IV. Bacillus subtilis or Bacillus licheniformis Host-Vector Systems ii
Appendix C-IV-A. Exceptions ii
Appendix C-V. Extrachromosomal Elements of Gram Positive Organisms ii
Appendix C-V-A. Exceptions iii
Appendix C-VI. The Purchase or Transfer of Transgenic Rodents iii
Appendix C-VII. Footnotes and References of Appendix C iii
http://www4.od.nih.gov/oba/RAC/guidelin ... NDIX_C.htm

Maybe some letters to the NIH and hard questions about how they allow these to be released when they have been altered, and are extremely contagious also. What says these are not contagious in their altered forms. How would anyone know if not tested for pathogen to humans?

A BIG HOLE. THE MONEY HOLE - NIH
THE POWER HOLE, those Federal Agencies who have superior control over the NIH, CDC etc.

Who supplies the $ ?

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Postby tamtam » Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:57 pm

This link does not work.
Does somebody has it printed out?
Its important.

The state of Georgia has started a database concerning this illness. They are using a different name for it though. http://health.state.ga.us/pdfs/hazards/ ... yndrome%22


unidentified dermatosis syndrome

Contact information
Jane M. Perry, Director
Chemical Hazards Program
Georgia Division of Public Health
Atlanta, Georgia
(404) 657-6534


People ask why the link is not working.......

My advise is to unite, create a legal base and to seek litigation.

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Link

Postby Maggie Mae » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:24 pm

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Postby tamtam » Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:15 pm

Yes, very good, thank you,

Its important to document official response.
Please be so kind to collect this.

tamtam

Source/ CNN

"Chinese leaders say today that science is the key to the country’s modernization and growth, but Dr. Xu finds no pleasure in that.
“They are just using it to serve themselves,” he said recently.
His phone, he says, is still bugged"
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re: subject

Postby SarahBione » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:40 pm

Skytroll wrote:Sarah Bione,

In fact the EPA, Univer of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, will not inform the public of its true nature. Some morgies have visited there with samples, and it is all HUSH HUSH.....


I disagree. Tell me one person who has been coerced not to talk about their samples, and what the mode of coercian has been.

Skytroll wrote:There are no tests for this, educate yourself on this, this is what we are doing here.


There are no tests to identify if something is a bacteria, fungus or algae? That is just not true, Skytroll.

Skytroll wrote:You attack sick people. I do not find that compassionate at all.


Please show me a single instance of someone who I have "attacked" and we can discuss this together.

Skytroll wrote:What type of researcher could I get who will look at this? the USDA? FDA? Michigan State Extension Service, they will not even identify the reduvid-type bug I found 5 years ago.


You're quote good at Googling, I have seen, have you not seen the American Society for Microbiology? Someone from that society, I feel certain, will be able to identify a fungus, bacteria, or alage for you. There is even a search for microbiologists in your area: http://www.asm.org/Search/membersearch.asp

Skytroll wrote:There are no researchers looking at this because the coverup is too great, and you know it.


I'm intruiged, that you are aware of something I know, when I do not know it. Please show me evidence about how the coverup is too great, and what else I know about it?
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Postby Skytroll » Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:57 pm

Sarah Bione,

The CDC said there are no meds or diagnosis for that matter for algae(mycocystins).

Doctors say you have excessive bacteria, so here is an antibiotic, and if they do not believe antibiotics help heal colds or virus, you will not be given one, until the brochial spasms are too great, then of course they will give you anti-fungi, which is the only one I know of for fungi in the lung, there are antifungal creams, of course, and that is what I use when the lesions look like fungus is in it. It soothes and does heal, takes a long time, however the mycocystins are another thing and when I talked to a person(from the CDC) who was here testing algae for it's toxicological effects, she said it would be 5 years before there would be treatment for it. But, the studies will show if it is toxic or not.

I know of a person who took samples to the University, and reps from the EPA, the FBI, the military, USDA, and other govt. officials were there. They told her what to do, but, to not mention what it was. The only thing in the South that has gotten out of hand is the Phorid fly.
Cannot be tested for that in Michigan. This Morgie was given Cipro and other meds. She got worse.

I will not mention the person, by name. That is not what is important.

However, there are other things going on with the environment.

If this is Antrax or Prion related, do you think we are going to find out?

No tests for altered bacterias, microbes used for bioremediation, biodegradation, or biocontrol of insects.

Of course, normal bacteria that has been known for 100 years based on germ theory, would be easy to detect. This is not normal bacteria, that one encounters every day.

You pick fights on other blogs, Sarah Conner, for one. She is trying her best to treat her illness, which we do not have to call Morgellons. I would say is a fiber disease, or MorphBorg, or a bioweapon release, or a university lab release, because of it's morphing, ability to change shape,
ability.

Oh, I have been all over the American Society of Microbiology, however, have you heard how many have been killed, you can find it on Chemtrail Central, either for what they found, or they were going to Blow the Whistle, or they didn't follow the Paradigm. Who knows, but a bit strange. By the way it has to get past the PC doc, unless one is loaded.

Okay, so you don't know about the coverup, is that right? Well, I guess it is whatever one wants to believe.

Proof, will be the ticket out this MorphBorg Mystery.

So, Sarah, willing to admit when I have shot myself in the foot. Ouch........

Thanks for responding.

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Postby Maggie Mae » Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:33 pm

To give an example of the niavity with regard to the official government agencies supposed to be at OUR beck and call....
1986 - poisoned severely with Glyphosate (that we know of for sure....)and after going through the local divisions - board of health, TVA, etc...USDA came to "take samples" of everything...property, well, blood...didn't even realize back then that they superceded EPA...well after 6 months of runaround, through some great networking peoples' help...our lawyer had to subpoena the records. We had requested they test for glyphosate...they said they did...we pressed for methodology used..very important....turns out they used a silvex method...panning for gold in your toilet method...as we pressed for answers, we finally got a document stating "the methodology for testing of glyphosate is not available to the USDA....only Monsanto can test as it is a "proprietary and trade secret" method....RIGHT!! Like they are really going to admit that they poisoned us. So going through proper channels is STUPID...waste of time and money. They had so much to worry about, that independent water tests were lost twice, and my children's blood samples were stolen from their pediatrician's office...this is all the truth and on record. Runaround>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>!!!! If anyone recalls, there were babies in some daycare center here in TN- back in 94' - that Dateline said died due to flesh-eating bacteria and an older boy who had massive skin grafts but survived..I called and talked to the reporter on that story telling her what I had been experiencing. I then contacted CDC as I mentioned. So, they just didn't find out about this...they have known for a very long time...it may be an entity but what constitutes "new"...?
So if we can not identify the main culprits, then why can't CDC be sued for fraud and/or whatever? They have stated publicly "on record" that they were investigating. TamTam???? Also a couple of questions...
Why if Cliff M. and others have found this worm has not Wymore found it...and has any other publicity been put out there?
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Postby Maggie Mae » Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:00 pm

I also want to inform people that there are executive orders in place that legally exempt them from experimental research on non-consenting public....I have the actual order number but need to dig it out of the files...see link
http://www.google.com/search?q=federal+ ... CGGLG%3Aen - read what the hospitals are doing with blood or notblood, I mean. Mad cow across the board...God I hate them.
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Postby London » Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:41 pm

oh, hell, I guess I lieD to myself unknowingly but this, all of this is bullshit.
I'm talking what they have done to society and how they have done it.

No, hell no I'm not posting my links anymore. That is not until I'm ready. Skytroll, you used a sentence in your post above that can sum this whole GD mess up. F,.yeah, it's LOADED. Go fish if you're hungry.

Maybe it was blown up, will have to pay closer attention. Someone said Wymore and Cliff.....HAHAHA AND THEY DON'T KNOW....

YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT THAT DAMN UNIVERSITY IN OKLAHOMA DOES NOT KNOW WHEN IT WAS HANDPICKED?

WHO CAN EVEN PROVE THAT MARY l STOLE MONEY? WHO? DO IT THEN..
THIS WHOLE THING IS A SCAM.....ALL THESE WEBSITES ARE WORKING
TOGETHER TO DEBUNK THE WHOLE HEINOUS COVER OF THE MECHANICAL CREATION OF THIS DISEASE.

THIS IS ALL FROM ME.....BUT HEED THIS.....WE ARE F-ING SICK OF IT....

I am in total shock. indifferent at times. Want and Need answer: Can this be turned around or not? If so, that will be good enough for me....I will then depart and never will return. Someone better start talking.

and MM, right on girlfriend.......

on second thought....yes, why does'nt cliff spill the beans if his "buddy" Wymore won't? What about Jan, (Greema, Cilla) someone knows something and we do know too that they are nearly all tied up to technology in some form or fashion.....did they all work for that satanic co?
fibers,,,,cotton....ahids.....hahaha how is it that my brain chemistry has changed.....and my eyes, maybe too much light getting in my retinas causing harm, but nah, for you see, I have not been outside very much in the past year, so its not the sunlight.....hmnnnn....chemicals.....??

someone needs to turn and help us for once, say it. just say it if there is no help. For the sake of humanity, help us. The truth will set you free...
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