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Curious... about the human brain...

Postby Dr. Genius » Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:55 am

I have a couple of questions about the brain and I'm really eager to know the answers... :?

1- How does the brain do the "memorizing" process??

2- When babies are born, does their brain posses the same level of intelligence??

3- Can one enhance his/her brain abilities and become a genius??
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Postby MrMistery » Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:22 pm

very vague question, even for a professional neurobiologist. Here is a little help from a beginner in this field.
1. not completely understood. there are chances this will never be completely understood. The things we do know is that it has to do both with the creation of new synapses, and both with a phenomenon called long-term potentiation. This long term potentiation is a process by which a neuron keeps firing impulses even after the signal that came from a synapse is over. It is pretty complex and it involves some special receptors - AMPA and NMDA. I am lazy and won't explain it here. Google it if you want.

2. Define intelligence. Nobody has ever did that. What we do know is that the young baby has more synapses than the adult.

3. define brain ability. define genius. what makes a genius a genius from a neurological point of view?!

You need to draw that elusive line between neurology and phychology
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Postby Dr. Genius » Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:34 pm

Thank you very much for trying to answer my questions...

Let's give an example... two students in class... A and J...
A is a brilliant student who understands lessons and masters the formulas given... while J doesn't score high grades and hardly concentrates and understands slowly...
Was A born with a clever brain, and J with the opposite??? Or did they both have the same intelligence level..??

Uhh... I can't clarify this question more than that ^^;

As for the other question... can anybody try to become "smarter" or "more clever" and become a genius - like Einstein -???

Hope this explanation is enough... I am very interested in Biology and joined this forum... but I'm just a 16-year old and my knowledge about Biology is very limited... I intend to learn more ^^
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Postby SubZer0 » Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:22 pm

Dr. Genius wrote:As for the other question... can anybody try to become "smarter" or "more clever" and become a genius - like Einstein -???


It is very possible to become smarter after your born, you have to trigger your brain cells, however, this method differs from person to person because everyone has a different way to devleop and use their neurons. If you want to become smart my advice is read more books and learn my knowlegde.

Remeber a genius is considered someone above "standard" in the specific criteria. This can mean anything from answering questions quickly and accurately in class, to frequently getting perfect on tests.
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Postby Linn » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:29 am

I wonder if Genius may be only with certain areas of the brain.

Didnt they think Einstein was retarded at one point? So why was that?
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Postby SubZer0 » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:48 am

Linn wrote:I wonder if Genius may be only with certain areas of the brain.

Didnt they think Einstein was retarded at one point? So why was that?


I think that is just a rumor because I just read his biography and nothing suggested he was "retarded" at one point of his life.

Here is his biography
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1921/einstein-bio.html
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Postby Linn » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:56 am

Thanx I have heard that rumor for years that when he (Einstein)was in school he had problems.

A friend Of mine who is a genius in math also had problems where the teachers called in his mother and said they thought he might be retarded and needs a special education. IQ tests showed the contrary. Problem was he was so bored that he tuned out.

more about Einstein: "Einstein's early years did not mark him as a genius. His parents worried because he was so slow to learn to speak. Although his family was Jewish, he attended a Catholic elementary school, where he did not excel. Because of failed business ventures, the family moved several times during Einstein's childhood, finally to Italy when he was 15. He was supposed to remain in Germany and finish school. He left, however (historians debate whether he was expelled or arranged to be excused for illness), and joined his family in Italy. He also renounced his Germany citizenship then, which freed him from military service. He belonged to no country until he became a Swiss citizen in 1921. "

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank/en ... peins.html


http://www.arcamax.com/backtoschool/q-1191
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Postby SubZer0 » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:23 am

Linn wrote:Thanx I have heard that rumor for years that when he (Einstein)was in school he had problems.

A friend Of mine who is a genius in math also had problems where the teachers called in his mother and said they thought he might be retarded and needs a special education. IQ tests showed the contrary. Problem was he was so bored that he tuned out.

more about Einstein: "Einstein's early years did not mark him as a genius. His parents worried because he was so slow to learn to speak. Although his family was Jewish, he attended a Catholic elementary school, where he did not excel. Because of failed business ventures, the family moved several times during Einstein's childhood, finally to Italy when he was 15. He was supposed to remain in Germany and finish school. He left, however (historians debate whether he was expelled or arranged to be excused for illness), and joined his family in Italy. He also renounced his Germany citizenship then, which freed him from military service. He belonged to no country until he became a Swiss citizen in 1921. "

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank/en ... peins.html


http://www.arcamax.com/backtoschool/q-1191


Interesting. I guess I read the wrong biography :oops:

But I have a question reguarding the brain. I just got done studying for a test and everytime it seems as if my head has a slight ache. Is this mental? Is my brain tired? Does it ache from taking in new information?
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Postby Linn » Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:14 am

Have you heard of the phrase: mid term headaches"?

I used to get such horrible headaches at mid term and final exam week that I had to get a shot _at_ hospital for them is how bad they were.

Now I realize it was stress (so what if I dont get an A) :roll: and not eating breakfast, lack of sleep etc.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/headaches/HE00002

and studying takes energy you should have some good carbs to nibble when you are studying like whole wheat or fruit.

PS: this is probably one of the best on-line biographies you will find :

Enjoy! :)

http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/early1.htm
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Postby polycon » Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:33 am

MrMistery wrote:very vague question, even for a professional neurobiologist. Here is a little help from a beginner in this field.
1. not completely understood. there are chances this will never be completely understood.


never completely understood.

Imagine humanity survives for 500 million more years all the while making advances expotential to our current rate of accumulating knowledge.

In all that time, and maybe more, we would have never completely understood the process in which the mass between our ears memorizes information?

"NEVER completely understood"

Thats a bold statement mr mystery.
I dont think its very reasonable for you to say so.
In fact i think its as rediculous as this advertisement that is on TV now that claims "crime will never go away but you can help stop it with blablabbnla"
NEVER? I think thats a very short sighted statement.
EVENTUALLY.. at SOME POINT in human history, crime will be eradicated.
EVENTUALLY .. at SOME POINT in human history , we will fully understand the complete nature of the human brain.
If that point is a billion years from now... then so be it.
But using the word NEVER.. thats just rediculous.


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Postby MrMistery » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:00 pm

look at my whole statement. I said there are chances that it will never be completely understood. just as there are chances that crime will never be eradicated. If an asteroid hits our planet and kills us tomorrow, then we never did completely understand how memory or eradicated crime.
What i meant is because memory is so complex, it is possible that we may never figure out how it works. We may do it, but you can't be sure.

It is REDICULOUS of you to say that at some point we will eradicate crime for sure.
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Postby Amrik » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:09 am

oK i have a question relating brain stuffs....U noe in the movie they show those stuffs tht this guy met wid an accident and hurted his head very badly..and then wen the guy wakes up he has forgotten his past(cant remember the technical term for memory loss :() yeah thts the thing...they say he has met wid an accident and has lost his memory..he cant remember anything but y is tht he remember the language he speaks...like "Who am i?" if he had forgotten evrything y not the language he learnt?

hehe...hope it is not confusing
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