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Postby London » Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:04 am

But Nadas, are'nt you talking Sci-fi here? I'm not. Seriously, shoot straight....hey, here is why we have so many friggin springtails...

Effects of the springtail Folsomia fimetaria and the nematode Aphelenchus avenae on Rhizoctonia solani stem infection of potato at temperatures of 10 and 15°C

Effects of mycophagous soil mesofauna on Rhizoctonia solani infection of potato stems were investigated in two experiments carried out in growth chambers at 10 and 15°C. The springtail Folsomia fimetaria and the nematode Aphelenchus avenae were selected as organisms suppressive to R. solani. Reduction in Rhizoctonia stem infection by mycophagous soil mesofauna was equally effective at 10 and 15°C. F. fimetaria tended to be more effective than A. avenae, but the best control was obtained when both organisms were present in the soil at high densities.

Here's something to see, it's the trichogramma wasp and wolbachia....>ALL ABOUT IT ACTUALLY. LOOK AT THE EGG PHOTO ON THEIR PAGE 38. TOO REAL FOR ME......
http://www.gcw.nl/dissertations/3389/di ... amma%20%22
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Postby RANDY » Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:32 am

The cream is for sale from the guy in Germany if anyone is interested.

I am still happy but waiting to see. I am VERY happy. For all of those who are just plain ole sick and tired or not being able to wear outfits without sleeves or short short cuz you have lesions that won;t heal....you will be very happy...this cream will make you feel human again.

http://www.scabies-morgellons.de
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Postby Nadas Moksha » Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:38 am

ahh london and i was a bout to graduate to NUMB CHUCKA status in class no action suit and nothing sci fi if its actually going on.
ok ok no more over dramatic fonts just straight data. but i cant shake the spelling without milling about my book shelves.

.. a mime is speaking through teeth.

thru a non appearent obstruction....
"me and Ibn Arabi have conjured the means to, not only shake these gimps from the skin but to FIX the hyphe and replacte the life cycle bench top style".
procedure on this board under a single circumstance: the only profit to be gained from what i have gathered is HEALTH! unless some bastard on this board is a angel,venture capitalist, or pharm rep and they move in, then each person on this board in this forum gets a cut... and if nadas recomendations are ignored, perpitratiors will suffer the JINN!

deal?
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P.S. non linearly humans are solvant to time and time is solvent to matter and matter is solvent to space .
just semiotic logistics. now Stanislaw LEM is sci-fi.
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Postby Skytroll » Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:18 pm

If one looks at the pictures on the link provided by Randy.
http://www.scabies-morgellons.de/

and then look at the word used in one of the articles provided by London in one of the above links,
Neocallimastigales
Well, I found this:
If one compares the pictures, one can see similar type organisms.
http://www.towson.edu/~wubah/rumenfungi ... poric.html

What do you all think. From MD? near the MD Lab?

The interesting thing about this fungi, is the fact that it too is being used as a model. Most models end up in the environment. Novel organisms.
So does anyone think that if we find the models, those used to study bio entities, we will eventually find the aim of the novel organisms?
Also, about this one there is something that stuck out for me.

" Although obscure, this group of fungi are gradually gaining recognition as model organisms e.g. for studying lateral transfer of genes between bacteria and a eukaryotic organism."

Now, if this neocallimastigales is used as a model,
and lateral transfer of genes between bacteria(procaryote) and "eukaryotic organism" then here is the LINK between one celled and multicelled organisms, since humans are multicelled.

SO LETS FOLLOW THE MODELS AND HEREIN WE SHALL FIND THE DEVIL.

Will see if I can find more on that fungus, you can see the filaments and budding. And why would it be called NEO?;;;;;;;;;
The other think about Lake Erie is troubling, that mycocystin is very dangerous. This is what the CDC was doing studies on here on a small lake. I talked to them. They are studying the mycocystins and will come up with a report, said it would probably be 5 years before they come up with answers. That is BS too.

This stuff, along with e-coli is all over the great lakes, and small lakes, not so much in rivers, since they flow continuously so algae cannot accumulate like in small lakes, ponds, which are on farmland,
and the Great Lakes. Also, is in oceans.
What I am thinking is that e-coli is used as model, seems many things used as models eventually end up in the environment and mostly in the earth's waters.

Neocallimastigales

Members of this order are obligate anaerobes that grow in the rumen, hindgut or caecum of various mammalian herbivores. They decompose cellulose and break the lignin deposits into smaller pieces with more surfaces for lignin-decomposing bacteria. They may be monocentric or polycentric with one member (Caecomyces) having a unique developmental pattern. Some representative genera are Neocallimastix, Pyromyces, and Orpinomyces.
The zoospores of the Neocallimastigales are posteriorly uniflagellate or posteriorly multi-flagellate. A second centriole has not been found associated with the kintetosome; the latter also lacks props.
Source: http://www.botany.uga.edu/zoosporicfungi/neocalli.htm

More on algae:

Interestingly, many of these same mycocystins are being found in the Great Lakes and other bodies of water.
This society is educating young people to study this.
http://falco.elte.hu/ALGA/alga/15HAMabstracts.htm

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Postby Skytroll » Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:56 pm

J Jill,

Talking yellow, maybe gold? This is a Golden Algae.
"It is now generally believed that the Chrysophyta is a heterogeneous group, probably paraphyletic"
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/chromista/chrysophyta.html

Paraphyletic:
http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Paraphyletic

Variables:
such as:
OXYGEN? NITROGEN? PHOSPHORUS? SEQUESTERED CARBON DIOXIDE?
PH/ALKALOID LEVEL? THYKALOIDS?
WATER TEMPERATURE?
LATERAL TRANSFER?
USE OF ALTERED MODELS OR NOVEL ORGANISMS IN RELEASES?
SYMBIONTS?
CONDUCTIVITY?


London,
Found this


Chironomid Larvae
Subfossil chironomids have been recognized among the
best late-glacial temperature/climate proxies (e.g., Walker et
al. 1991). In mature systems, however, changes in water temperature
caused by altered climate conditions can cause cas-cading effects on many lake ecosystem and catchment processes
(Schindler 2001). Oxygen availability in particular is
one of those variables that has a direct effect on the distribution
of bottom-living chironomid larvae (e.g., Jo´nasson
1984; Heinis and Davids 1993). The oxygen conditions in
the hypolimnion, however, are determined by a series of factors
including lake morphometry, depth, temperature, ice
cover, stratification, lake productivity, dissolved organic carbon,
respiration, and mixing between layers.
The character
of the paleolimnological signal reflected by biological proxies,
such as chironomids, might therefore not be a direct
(primary) response to a single parameter but a response to
complex cascading ecosystem dynamics (Battarbee 2000).
Models have been developed to quantitatively infer past
hypolimnetic oxygen conditions from subfossil chironomid
assemblages (Quinlan et al. 1998; Little and Smol 2001;
Quinlan and Smol 2001). These models are based on the
training set approach using either modeled or measured oxygen
values. Although these models have a fairly good predictability,
some limitations have been mentioned
(Clerk et
al. 2000), and because of the multiple limnological interrelations
mentioned above, it is difficult to partial out the effects
of other factors from oxygen availability.
Source: http://aslo.org/lo/toc/vol_49/issue_5/1549.pdf


COULD THE VANDERPLANKII(chironomid) AND ITS GROWING IN WATER BASE REFLECT THE CHANGE IN WATERS, ALGAE, FUNGI, ETC. SYMBIOSIS?

THE PLANT/INSECT SYMBIOSIS OR TRANSFER?

Information on Chrysophytes:
http://falco.elte.hu/ALGA/alga/15HAMabstracts.htm

Acidification, conductivity,
Chrysophyceae and Synurophyceae taxa that are
covered by siliceous scales are commonly referred
to as scaled chrysophytes (Anderson 1987). The indicator
potential of scaled chrysophytes (hereafter
referred to as chrysophytes) was initially recognized
in lake eutrophication studies; however, major advances
occurred within the last 15 years as paleolim-
nological studies gained prominence in lake acidi-
fication research (reviewed in Smol 1995). Studies
in Canada (e.g. Dixit et al. 1989b, c), the U.S.A. (e.g.
Dixit et al. 1990, Siver and Hamer 1990, Cumming
et al. 1992a), and Europe (e.g. Cumming et al.
1991) quantitatively related the distributions of
scaled chrysophyte assemblages to lake-water pH
and provided historical assessments of change to
lake-water pH.
Chrysophyte assemblages have also
been found to be correlated with conductivity (Siver
1993), certain metals (Dixit et al. 1989a, Cumming
et al. 1992a), and nutrients (Siver and Marsicano
1996).

SOURCE: http://www.biology.ccsu.edu/penniman/BIO434/jphycol.pdf

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Postby J Jill » Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:40 pm

Interesting info, thanks Sky...

More on the Lake Erie debacle... it ties to the post by South-



http://www.iaglr.org/jglr/release/31/31 ... 95-207.php

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Excerpt:


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
June 12, 2006


Contacts
Zebra mussels stimulate algae growing on the bottom of Lake Erie

Ann Arbor, MI — Algae along the bottom of Lake Erie have higher productivity in the presence of zebra mussels. These rates can far exceed growth rates of algae suspended in the water column.

This study confirms the finding that zebra mussels are re-engineering Lake Erie's biological community. The accidental introduction of zebra mussels into the Great Lakes during the late 1980s has led to many changes, including decreases in algae suspended in the water column and the resulting increase in water clarity that extends the area over which benthic plants can grow. This re-engineering affects many organisms in the Great Lakes.

"Zebra mussels and related quagga mussels are very effective at removing particles from the water," says Bob Hecky, an internationally renowned biologist studying large lakes around the world. "The particles removed from the water column include microscopic plants and animals whose their remains are deposited on the bottom of the lake."

Once removed from the water column, nutrients in these particles can stimulate plants such as Cladophora - a filamentous green alga - that grows attached to rocks. Hecky believes that this represents a fundamental shift in how Lake Erie functions and offers insight into understanding why Cladophora is now so common.

Cladophora can be considered a nuisance because large mats become detached in mid to late summer and wash up on beaches. This study demonstrates that the presence of mussels appears to increase the growth of Cladophora. Zebra mussels may also delay midsummer detachment of Cladophora by reducing or delaying nutrient stress.

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What is Cladophora?

http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/GLWI/cladophora/

Excerpt:

Cladophora is a branching, green filamentous alga found naturally along the coastline of most of the Great Lakes. Research in the 1960’s and 70’s linked Cladophora blooms to high phosphorus levels in the water, mainly as a result of human activities such as fertilizing lawns, poorly maintained septic systems, inadequate sewage treatment, agricultural runoff and detergents containing phosphorus. Due to tighter restrictions, phosphorus levels declined during the 1970’s and Cladophora blooms were largely absent in the 1980’s and 90’s.

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Postby London » Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:14 pm

Sky,

Wow, thanks.....your second post (the colorful one) I still have to finish...someone sent me an email on the usda and mycotoxins and I'm looking into it right now; especially with the use of computers...I.E., like hand-held computers that do the barcoding on our FOODS. thus maybe sending NANOWIRES into the FOODS we EAT?????? Hmmmm......thus
maybe our biotech industry has ruined our packaged foods too.....what idiots.... this is not what the persons email was about but I just got to thinking......

Black skies......

London

PS: Well, look here:

Isolation of optical signatures of phytoplankton pigments in turbid productive waters: Remote assessment of chlorophyll-a

Date: 2006

Field-based collection of discrete measurements and laboratory analysis of water samples is the traditional methodology for monitoring the quality of turbid productive inland lakes. Despite its widespread use, this methodology can be limited by time and financial constraints when time-series of data are required over vast geographic regions. Remote sensing of lake water quality has the potential to overcome these limitations by complementing traditional monitoring techniques. The main objective of this study was to develop robust remote-sensing algorithms for estimating chlorophyll-a concentration (Chl) in turbid productive waters. A large set of reflectance and absorption spectra as well as relevant water quality parameters was collected over a period of three years in Nebraska lakes of different origins and morphometrics. A conceptual model originally developed for remote sensing of terrestrial vegetation, was tuned according to the optical characteristics of turbid productive waters and successfully used to predict Chl of independent data sets. The model relates Chl to a combination of three reflectance bands located in the red and near-infrared (NIR) spectral regions. NIR-to-red reflectance ratios can be viewed as a special case of this model. By means of simulated reflectance spectra, the sensitivity of these algorithms to variations in bio-optical parameters and reflectance uncertainties was studied. It was shown that the accuracy of Chl estimation depends strongly on the phytoplankton specific inherent optical properties as well as on reflectance uncertainties. On the other hand, the algorithms appeared to be robust with respect to variations in other bio-optical parameters such as the concentration of total suspended particles and the Chl fluorescence quantum yield. Finally, the potential of applying NIR-to-red reflectance ratios to existing ocean color sensors was demonstrated.

http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/dissertations/AAI3208053/
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Anyone hungry?

Postby Sabrina » Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:44 pm

YUM! Eat up!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/18/edible ... index.html

FDA approves viruses as food additive
Bacteriophages meant to kill harmful bacteria on lunch meats

Friday, August 18, 2006; Posted: 6:31 p.m. EDT (22:31 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A mix of bacteria-killing viruses can be safely sprayed on cold cuts, hot dogs and sausages to combat common microbes that kill hundreds of people a year, federal health officials said Friday in granting the first-ever approval of viruses as a food additive.

The combination of six viruses is designed to be sprayed on ready-to-eat meat and poultry products, including sliced ham and turkey, said John Vazzana, president and chief executive officer of manufacturer Intralytix Inc.

The special viruses, called bacteriophages, ………

Would you like a side order of rice with that?


Just for Skytroll. LLRICE 601

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/4127418.html

Aug. 18, 2006, 9:45PM

USDA: Rice supply contaminated with unapproved variety

Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns announced late Friday that U.S. commercial supplies of long-grain rice had become inadvertently contaminated with a genetically engineered variety not approved for human consumption.

"Based upon the information we have seen, this product is safe," he said in a telephone news conference.

This came out late on a Friday afternoon, which is when government officials are betting no one is paying attention.

However, we don't really know what the risks of contamination may be, and how far spread it is.

Responsible scientists in this area of research have been warning us that this kind of incident was not only possible, but probable, and they were right.

http://www.newswithviews.com/guest_opinion/guest97.htm

THE TRUTH ABOUT OUR FOOD THAT NOBODY HEARD

By Donna Voetee
August 20, 2006

NewsWithViews.com

I have a new hero.

He is Robert W. Young, the Assistant Inspector General for Audit of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and author of Audit Report 50601-8-Te that was released last December, “Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service Controls Over Issuance of Genetically Engineered Organism Release Permits.”

Like the prophet Nathan before sinful King David, Mr. Young wags his honest pen in the face of the slothful, incompetent imbeciles who have failed miserably in their responsibility of checking the ambitions of mad scientists, greedy corporations, and corrupt politicians with the chains of the law. ……

“Did we just read that our government allows the planting of genetically engineered crops, whose safety is unknown, without a WRITTEN plan for keeping those crops from contaminating anything planted around them, or the entire environment, for that matter?”

What a sick world we live in.



Randy,
How much does that new cream cost? I’m fed up with living with bleeding skin as this crap eats away at me. I cry hard sometimes.

Peace,
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Has anyone heard from Cilla?
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Postby London » Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:31 pm

Sabrina,

WOW. The bacteriophages are not good; especially M13 and our disease!

I was writing a reply post to you the other night, but fell asleep-hit the wrong key and lost it....but to answer your question, no, not at all. I think she may be hanging out on the website Cliff post on. Dunno if that is the European site or what have you. But no, she has not been here.

(unless she writes under another name; it's been well over a month since she posted.)
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Sky,
You may find this interesting (it goes with your post on the top of page)

http://wwwscielo.isciii.es/scielo.php?s ... en&nrm=iso

and one other too- this saying it overexpress chitan....(harder to read though)

http://www.apsnet.org/phyto/PDFS/1999/0 ... tinase.%22
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Read this: Dunno if it has anything to do with our disease but still-

SmartGrow is a circular woven mat made from hair fiber designed to go into the bottom of a container. The mat acts like a sponge by absorbing water and then releasing the water back to the plant as needed, reducing the amount of watering necessary. The mat comes in three sizes or as a roll for custom sizes. http://www.wrg.us

http://depts.washington.edu/hortlib/res ... p?term=806
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Postby Skytroll » Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:13 pm

J Jill,

That ties right into that article by South. Now, the thing I have learned about zebra muscles, is that they avoid algae and will not eat it. So the plankton that took care of it is now being eaten by the zebra muscles.

Wouldn't you say the Circle of Life has changed?

And what brings that about, IMO, is that models have been instituted into the environment, novel organisms have been released, many of them, many water related ones.

The phytoplankton and photoplankton is disappearing, by way of zebra muscle, therefore, the algae is growing due to nothing eating it.
The circle stops. Hence the toxins begin.

Now, I know that is rather simple, but, add to that the Verplankii which grows in the bottom in the algae soup. That is regenerated over and over by water. Carbon bucky ball particulates providing the conductivity.

So, the construct would consist of verplankii that can be freezedried or cold temperatures goes diapause(rests) and then when waters warm up, it starts growing again and link that to algae one has a protists type or organism going on. When in certain unfrozen yet cold states could this verplankii horizontally transplant into the algae? and/or the algae transplant into the midge which carries the algae toxin? which bites us, however they say these are non-biting midges. What if they are not biting but are pore entry? into us? by way of microsporidium from the algae? Also, possible crossover, lateral gene trasport into protozoans.
A real morphogenesis taking place in the bottom of the lakes, oceans, due to lack of oxygen, correct PH level, nitrogen level, and/or conductivity of particles from bucky balls?

Far fetched?

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/exploration/s ... balls.html

Fullerene-like hollow nanoparticles:
Snip: Don't these look like fibers?

"A special objective of our work is to provide a useful theoretical background for the superior tribological properties of inorganic fullerenes, which have been demonstrated recently by the groups of Reshef Tenne (Weizmann Institute) and Jacob Israelachvili (Santa Barbara). Similar concepts can be easily applied to nanotubes. They also can be applied to colloidal core-shell particles with a hollow core, like hollow polyelectrolyte shells (e.g. biocapsules, experimental work at this institute by F. Caruso, E. Donath, H. Moehwald, A. Fery and G. Sukhorukov). Examples for similar structures in the biological domain are the actin cortex of animal cells (in particular of red blood cells) and clathrin coats (used by cells to stabilize budding vesicles"


Concern or toxicty of Bucky balls:

source: http://www.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de/organi ... icles.html

Toxicity of buckyballs:
To better understand how cells process one type of carbon nanomaterial, a team of investigators at the University of Cambridge in the United Kingdom, used high-resolution three-dimensional electron microscopy to track where buckyballs, or C 60, travel to in cells. Using non-toxic doses of buckyballs, the investigators found that buckyballs concentrated in intracellular lysosomes, along the cell membrane, along the nuclear membrane, and within the nucleus. Finding significant numbers of the nanoparticles in these latter two locations was a surprise to the investigators. They noted that accumulation of buckyballs within the cell nucleus could lead to DNA damage.
The work examining the toxicities of multiple materials is detailed in a paper titled, "Cellular toxicity of carbon-based nanomaterials." Investigators from the University of Lausanne, in Switzerland, and the University of Fribourg, in Switzerland, also participated in this study. An abstract of this paper is available through PubMed. View abstract.

The work on buckyball uptake is detailed in a paper titled, "Uptake of C(60) by human monocyte macrophages, its localization and implications for toxicity: studied by high resolution electron microscopy and electron tomography." An abstract of this work is available through PubMed. View abstract.

The work on carbon nanotubes is detailed in a paper titled, "Functionalized carbon nanotubes are non-cytotoxic and preserve the functionality of primary immune cells." This paper was published online in advance of print publication. An abstract is available at the journal's website. View abstract.

http://nano.cancer.gov

And for the SCI FI stuff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_ ... liant_Eyes

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Postby London » Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:22 pm

skytroll,

Does this go at all with what you are saying? It talks of mitochonderial DNA as markers.....

http://www.bolinfonet.org/pdf/problems. ... lotypes%22

and look here too please.:

http://nano.cancer.gov/resource_center/ ... tracts.asp

Congratulations to TIGER WOODS his 12th !!

check this out:

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parasitoid wasp from eggs of the rice. moth Corcyra cephalonica. 45. and disrupted ... androgen receptors and to sex hormone bind-. ing globulin. ...
http://www.pesticide.org/Permethrin.pdf - Similar pages


supposedly it is on the foods from the crops and in the water. V. toxic as well.
http://www.safe2use.com/poisons-pestici ... rt/cox.htm

Augmentative releases of parasitoid wasps in stored wheat reduces insect fragments in flour.

Field studies were conducted to assess the effectiveness of the parasitoid wasp, Theocolax elegans, for reducing insect fragments in flour by suppressing populations of Rhyzopertha dominica in six bins, each containing 27 tonnes of wheat. Beetles were released into all the six bins at monthly intervals for 3 months. Parasitoid wasps were released into three of the bins, 21 days after the first beetle release. Wheat samples from the bins were milled to determine the effects of parasitoid releases on insect fragment counts in flour. In the first year of the study, after 198 days of storage, insect fragment counts were 9.4 and 31 per 50 g flour in the treatment and control bins. However, because of high variability, the means were not significantly different. New grain was used in the second year of the study, and higher numbers of beetles were released. After 131 days of storage, fragment counts averaged 56 and 487/50 g in the treatment and control bins, a reduction in the former of 89%. In the second year of the study, insect myosin in the treatment and control bins averaged 0.27 and 3.23 ng/well, a percentage reduction in the treated bin of 92%. The number of insect damaged kernels (IDK) was significantly lower in the treatment than in the control bins in both years of the study. In the first year, IDK was 6 and 15 IDK/100 g wheat in the treatment and control bins respectively, a reduction in the former of 61%. In the second year, IDK was 12 and 148 IDK/100 g wheat, in the treatment and control bins respectively, a reduction of 92%. This study showed that augmentative releases of parasitoid wasps into bins of stored wheat reduced damage to wheat kernels and the number of insect fragments in flour
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