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Postby tamtam » Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:32 am

What has happened is that a highly genetically modified specie has integrated in the commensal pool.

Like you could make it a problem e.g that the introduction of a foreign fish specie starts to replace a native one but not would make it a problem that the commensal pool of micro organisms in the human body systematically becomes replaced by a specie that is complex in organization and because of its cell adhesion (accumulation in tissue) is pathogenic per definition(....)

Its the international (and in particular western) scientific world that has become as deliberate in its goals and actions as the former Soviet Union(....)

Repression of facts in favor of present methodology.

Hence; final conclusion could be that its not about universal science but about western ideology.

To safeguard scientific program they delete or steer away from all that could immediately prove that people tend to disappear in the statistic.

The idea is that You can absorb the cases without having to mention the facts c.q go for the consequences(....)

How organized can You get via consensus based decision making!

Like with any crime its not a problem until the dead bodies walk out of the cupboard to explain about a peculiar kept silence.

Could mention the facts start to prove about a long history of opportunistic adaptation and exploitation?


Stay tuned,

Sincerely,

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ok then

Postby southcity » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:43 am

Ok then, You have the forum and the peoples attention and if things play out like you believe they might, then so be it. Because you have the forum and the attention, blast everything you have out to the world and let things sort themselves out. People are suffering now. To withhold any information that may help or at least get the wheels in motion is a crime in itself. If you have something to say, you have our attention, just present it. your current methods are backfiring or may be actually viewed as helping those you claim to be able to expose. ie the scientific world in the western alliance that is content in us dissapearing in statistic. which by the way are gathering numbers at a quikening rate.
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Postby hartuk » Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:26 pm

Hello Befour, All,

You echo my sentiments exactly.

I also have had this problem for many years and the direction given by TamTam has given me tangible instructions as to how to begin to deal with this.

John Kern, with respect, you do not suffer with this illness, and you probably did not read what Befour said in the preceeding post to yours.

What feels "nice" is the relief I have obtained following TT's suggestions
re. medications, and being empowered rather than helpless.


Hopeless= More Control.

What does not "feel nice", is the realisation that the same old dogmatic thinking, censorship and threats permeate to an open discussion board on the internet.

"Bannation...." now thats a word to attatch a feeling to, or even create a riddle from.


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ps. This does not feel nice.
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Postby canalon » Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:19 pm

Hartuk, Befour and the other,

When I see the picture, I wonder how eficient are tamtam remedies. My main problem is mostly that, even if you do not really understand that, what he says:
1- does not make sense, no really his description of the micro-organism is full of scientific words that do not make any sense when put together.
2- And that you should be able to realize, he constantly refuse to answer to my simple question "how did he come to his results?" Because the picture in his movies certainly do not provide any basis for all what he says.

The problem is that some molecules can cause temporary relief (the placebo effect is a reality, and has been proven to affect disease whose etiology was known. I am not saying that what I see on you picture is delusionnal) and big problems later on. Suggesting the use of quite a lot of antibioticswhen there are not the slightest proof given that bacteria are involved is not a good idea. Beside even if there are bacteria involved, the quantities of antibiotic to be used hould be carefully evaluated if you want to avoid simply selecting resistant bacteria and making the use of a complete class of antibiotic useless in the future when what you are suffering will be understood.What tamtam is NOT helping at all by throwing his half-understood "scientific knowledge" at you. In short if Tamtam has something show it, otherwise, do not play with other peoples life on a public board.
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Postby tamtam » Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:27 pm

Southcity I hope You will understand that there is always time invoved to create a democratic base and get people lined up to appreciate the facts.

I do not keep any information away that already could have motivated the Institutions to give immediate attention to what is going on.

They know all about this epidemic and they certainly are not going to confirm the real scope, content and long term effect of this disaster.

This modified almost impossible to eradicate pathogenic micro organism is everywhere!

As a matter of fact it are disease name claiming organizations that play a most remarkable and detrimental role and they know it!

They try to negociate an impossible situation.
Its always the same story with power seekers.

As You all may know I do not support any organization that provides an opportunistic base to keep control about per definition public matter.

That CDC has been put under pressure because of the immediate attention in relation to the presentation of exclusive and revealing video footage is fact
and confirmed e.g by the article in the San Francisco Chronicle.

Nobody has to fear the course of things as long there is appropriate support from the public.

And I hope that the public will stay fit enough to deal with the sick ideology of the western intelligentia.

Fact will be that a most trecherous triangle of interacting Institution, Corporation and Military will become exposed and will have to stand trial for the Court of International justice in relation to a crime against humanity.

This pathogen is about statistic, control of information and more over:
the petit bourgeois mentality of all that identifies with per definition false authority.

Scandalous profit seekers one way or the other, sacrifice of an unprecedented number innocent people including very young children
and this on a grant scale

- all with consent of the same nobility called the western intelligentia.

That people should not judge too early and observe how things may develop.
To be without prejudice would be the right support.

And that they defend their case with sending a registered letter to the institution and that they demand intervention and a written response.

This particular matter will never go away without coordinated international attention and what would be most mandatory in this particular context is that the public should decide to act as decisive monitor.
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Postby hartuk » Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:57 pm

Hello Canlon,

I thought you might think this....the picture I posted was before I used TamTam's protocol.
It stayed this way for 18 months until March, when I was introduced to the possibilities of Itraconazole via TT.

Canlon, I have had my blood examined, and seen Giant Forms and Coccoid bacteria.

Waiting is not an option. The NHS protocol for Lyme Disease in the UK for instance, is 10 days Doxycycline.

Ermmm, yes doctor.

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Postby John Kern » Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:47 pm

tamtam, you lost your credibility a long time ago. Your neo-libertarian ramblings are not helping.

If you actually had any scientific evidence, then you have had no reason not to release it. Obviously you have nothing.

Put up, or shut up.
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Postby Skytroll » Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:03 pm

Canalon,

And it can't be done, maybe not gold, but other metals/elements

Silicon, not polymer?

Organic/inorganic:
"Coli formula, here I come
The company's modus operandi can be likened to the old adage about throwing spaghetti on the wall and seeing what sticks.

The first stage of the process involves creating billions of random genetic variants of a bacteriophage, or virus, that attacks the E. coli bacteria. "We morph the genetic material of a parasite of a bacteria," Knapp said. (Though E. coli is commonly associated with food poisoning, researchers like to work with it because it's fairly well understood. "It is the workhorse of the biomolecular world," Knapp said.)


Altering the genome in an individual bacteriophage causes the virus to produce a novel protein. "Each bacteriophage has one protein but there are billions of bacteriophages," Knapp said. Researchers then examine how this huge, lab-generated library of proteins interacts with a foreign substance, often different types of metals.

Because of the number of different viruses and their respective proteins, the protein-substance encounters are not set up as individual meetings. Instead, the inorganic material is brought into contact with all of the different proteins at once. The proteins that don't stick or react to the metal or other foreign substance are washed away. "Bonding is the first step in how to manipulate these systems," Knapp explained.

Subsequent experiments then winnow the field to the most interesting results. The end results are varied: the same inorganic material will produce different types of crystals with a change in proteins Creating new substances out of a reaction between a protein and a metal comes as a result of the catalytic process many observe in high school chemistry. The big difference, Knapp said, is that most people don't associate proteins with this process, just inorganic minerals and elements.
A second technique involves combining inorganic materials with variants of a tube-shaped virus, known as M13, that measures 880 nanometers long and 6 nanometers in diameter. Instead of trying to form a third substance, researchers look to see whether the inorganic materials will bond into a coating around the virus.

In essence, researchers are forming fossils of the virus. The procedure could someday be employed to create nanowires, strands of atoms, generally made of pure silicon, that can be used to conduct electricity or light."

source:http://news.com.com/Start-up+to+use+genes+to+build+better+chips/2100-1001_3-5295335.html

delivery system.

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Postby Skytroll » Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:24 pm

Tam TAm,

On the other hand, rather than inorganic, as the argument intensifies between bacteria and protein, then new cladistics must be formed.

"Dr Akam who is an expert in Drosophila development, considered the evolution of arthropods - who are segmental animals (such as lobsters and insects etc) - and who like all animals have a set of genes called hox genes, which lay down some of the basic patterns during development. He compared a crustacean, the shrimp artemia, with the fruit fly and concluded that the hox genes existed in their full complement in a common ancestor. Most importantly, what has changed between artemia and Drosophila is not the numbers of genes but is the controlling elements that regulate where the genes are expressed. Such changes would be a very strong force for altering the basic body plan of an animal."Discussion from the Brits:
http://www.absw.org.uk/Briefings/bacteria.htm

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Postby tamtam » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:15 pm

Lets suppose You identify a certain John Kern.

Next question could be how many interactions this multi cellular being could yield as well in vivo as in vitro.

In fact so many mainly difficult interactions would certainly confront You at once that it would be sufficient to state;

A single entity mainly of difficult character.

If You have an elephant dancing in Your front garden;
Do You really need a fact sheet of its metabolism to be able to conclude:

Indeed an elephant is dancing in my front garden!
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Postby London » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:31 pm

I thought I was through. I wiped out most of my files stored on the computer yesterday. Today I began to organize my office, i.e., papers
were everywhere. So, in the midst of stacking the multitude of papers, storing away in files and trashing some, I came across one that I had
printed off on Nov. 4, 2005.

I'm sure I mentioned it on the boards, the other forum for sure, but did not get a good reply so, I threw the idea out of my mind. (you know how they all come out and gang up and say such idiotic things to you-making you, yourself believe that it could'nt be so if everyone else said no) Well, that is pure BS! Just wish I knew now, what I knew then.

This message is not geared towards you-guys current debate of the Tam-
Tams postings or not. For my advise would be to not listen to anyone but yourself and what you find.

So, back to this old paper I picked up today. It is talking about the USDA and a lady named Maureen Wright, whom developed some bio-control compounds to kill off the formosian termite down south here-particularly,
New Orleans, where I had just flewn in from 5 days before I fell ill with the only eye infections I had my entire life.

Bottom line of this paper: (this paper was origionally written in April 2002) The states effected are: Cali, Tx, Hawaii, La, Fl, Lo, Ms, North & South carolina, Alabama, Tn, and Georgia- that is 11 states.
What they are using and why

In the 2002 paper it simply said microorganisms: A (Bacillus) and two
fungi ( Metarhizium and Beauveria)

You know me, I investigated it a bit and found that the thing they have created is derived from a cottony mold called:

Paecilomyces fumosoroseus

Now, check that puppy out and see if it's good for you. What they said was: duhhhhhh , "we don't anticipate any harfmful effects from this product." duhhhhhhh, Maureen, you make me ill! Both literally and figurativley! and so does Dow chemical and every one of you f.rods that work for the USDA. (Randy's use of Nimrods was nice in comparison)

So, Skytroll, if you are reading this, check this information here out
and rest assured, you are on the right track, do not be swayed by anyone, anytime. Use your noggin. I would not trust a damn sole.
Am I para? You better believe it! Like I said, 85% would be my guesstimate of infiltrators.

and the bacteriophage, hell, yeah! That is exactly how they got this into us and you want to know something else? You know those colored lil fibers? I think that is part of the bacteriaphage and get this too.............

I think the fibers that were spun have the virus on them!!!!

And I don't need anyones rhetoric. No comebacks with Nah, that's not bad. I mean, yeah, come on with them, but you will be wasing your time b/c I will not be fooled by a damn one of you anylonger. Skytroll, you should heed this message......you are as smart as anyone of them!

Here, I will give you some hyperlinks I just got today- and I thought I was through with all of this searching.

I also hear what Patrick is saying about the safety of advice of meds:

I was all gung-ho and getting some Ivermectin in me by yesterday. Well, I'm glad I did my homework, b/c if one is infected with some type of filarial worm (forgot which one at the moment) not only is Ivermectin no good for it, but it will cause one to have seious side effects (respiratory) if they are indeed effected with this filarilal worm.

Bottom Line: Your Govrnement is the guilty party. It is called the USDA.

Here's the toxicology report on this :

http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/biopestic ... 115002.htm

http://www.pctonline.com/news/news.asp?ID=1949

http://www.center-biologisk-bekaempelse.dk/AMI abstracts.doc

and my favorite:

The Effect of Heavy Metal Ions and Their
Complexions upon Growth, Sporulation and
Pathogenicity of the Entomopathogenic Fungus
Paecilomyces farinosus

http://www.pjoes.com/pdf/12.2/227-230.pdf

Here's a map:

http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/progra ... P_CODE=308
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this is my point

Postby southcity » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:37 pm

tamtam, You are assuming that everyone in the media is also part of this coverup. They are not. Look at the nyt as of late. the point I am trying to convey to you, is that if you have more compelling proof of what is front of us, and also have facts gathered that could be investigated and reported on, then to withhold this information is a crime and will do nothing but aid in those wishing to cover this up. Whether through court actions against reporters, etc etc, All of which are happening more and more frequently, achieving the goal of authority secrecy. To wait will only make the presentation that much more difficult. There are many independant journalists wanting to cover this story. give it to all of them. There are many good people in the world too, i like to think there are as many as there are bad. right now you are playing into the agenda of the bad. The awareness has been created. All one must do to see this is to view my logs or your logs which I know are likely much more compelling. to wait will also only add to people distrust of you through your actions and methods. To delay further will work against your credibility only. to complain about not getting any media play is a moot point. Right now the internet is the biggest media outlet globally. Present all of what you have on the internet and let the people find it, something they are already doing although they are going away from the issue with confusion.

Now as far as how big an issue this is becoming. While talking with a neighbor kid, an 8 year old, he kept itching his shoulder and when I asked him about it he said he is itching all over. this kid lives down the block from me, so I doubt highly that it could have been passed from me to him directly. So you are infact right about how big this issue is.

I will be doing a one hour interview on aug 17. Details will be announced on http://www.crossinglines.net. You want attention to this? I will provide it, but only if I am convinced that what I say can be cooborated through individual research. ie the internet.

My biggest concern is that if you do indeed have more information that is proof conclusive, it may come to us as some sort of terrorist revelation. Are you a terrorist tamtam? I dont think so because of institutes that you seem to be connected with through log analysis, BUT I have been wrong before and this is one thing that I cannot afford to wrong about, which we have also talked about.

This is no longer simply an environmental, economic and spatial management issue. This is about life for everyone on this earth, not simply a department of specialised study and its supported theory.
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