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Postby alextemplet » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:49 am

loveangel wrote:im really confused about where do humans come from? sometimes i get frustrated about this, is lucy nearly a human?


Depends on what you consider "human."
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Postby MAx333 » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:42 pm

I would like to know if anyone on the forum has read the Origin of Species, or if not cover to cover, at least most of it. Otherwise, it appears to me it is a futile back and forth argument about evolution, based on assumptions of what it is supposed to be.

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Postby alextemplet » Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:08 am

I tried to read it when I was in high school, but it was too boring for my high-school mind to comprehenend. I have no plans to try again anytime soon, since I still have a hard enough time trying to get through Leviticus.
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Postby canalon » Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:08 am

Yep Read it cover to cover, as well as many other papers and books on the subject. Same thing for the Bible, as well as a few other books on theology or history of religion.

I am definitely convinced that Darwin's ideas are correct, even if there is still alot to do to understand all the mechanisms behind. And I stil consider religion as a first attempt to understand our world, and to face our questions on the meaning of life. It may have more answers, but definitely think that religion should give up dtrying to explain our material world, and concentrate on the area where science has nothing to do (moral/ethics for example)
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Postby alextemplet » Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:52 am

Every time I read the Bible I find myself enchanted by it, and lately I've been getting back into my habit of reading a few chapters every day. I also research other faiths when possible, and I've lately developed an interest in Buddhism. Another book that I've been reading lately is The Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey; it's actually very interesting and definitely makes you think. I've also tried reading bits of the Quran, but I find it much harder to get through than the Bible, and I have never succeeded in reading the whole thing through. And of course I'll also have to read The Book of Mormon sooner or later.

I'm straying from the subject again, aren't I? My bad. :oops:
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Postby mith » Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:06 pm

Yeah you are.

@max while it is important to read Darwin's book, I don't think it's completely necessary, I mean I got the copy at my Barnes and Noble and it was kinda tiny. There's other books with more updated info even though the foundations are still there. And I really don't think simply reading it would automatically end the debate. Sometimes we choose to believe what we want. Might not be the best way to deal with things but c'est la vie.
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Postby alextemplet » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:23 am

I bought my copy of The Origin of Species from Books-a-Million. I think I read about three chapters before I got too bored with it. Darwin may have been a great thinker, but he wasn't a very eloquent writer. Even the writers of the Torah had more style.
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Postby canalon » Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:11 am

I have to admit that I read it in the french translation, so it is hard to judge the style, But is not much more boring than the usual review I have to read for work. A wee bit longer though...
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Postby alextemplet » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:35 am

One of these days I'm going to have to try reading it again, but like I said for now I have plenty to of religious books to read.
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Postby Linn » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:11 am

me two sense :

I dont think there is any thing about Darwins observations that arent a no brainer. :roll:
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Postby loveangel » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:40 am

you know, im kinda frustrated about the theory of charles darwin, because when he almost died, i read a book, telling that, his last words were, "tell them about jesus christ". dont know where to believe, are we from apes or are we created out of god???
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Postby loveangel » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:48 am

hey, its is stated that judas, im not sure about the spelling, is a hero, ive heard it from our discussions about religon. i find it hard to believe about the theory of darwism and that we were created by god.... pls, im really confused!!!!! tell me about the orgin of species, if you have read the book.
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