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Postby Poison » Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:20 pm

zami'87. wrote:Hi people!I'm not sure that you can say that everything that is alive is made of cells.What about viruses?Are they "living things"?I'm not sure.Ok viruses can't reproduce without cell's metabolism but they can reproduce... :roll:


According to the definition of life, they are NOT living. But if you change the criteria of living things, they can be.. But they are non-living in the present situtation.
We discussed this in the past you can make a search to read our discussion.
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Postby adam00f » Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:15 pm

zami'87. if u want to know more abour virus click this link..they will help u http://www.biology-online.org/1/9_pathogens.htm, but its true virus are not living they have genetic material and stuff but in order for them to reproduse they need a cell
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Postby zami'87. » Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:07 pm

adam00f wrote:zami'87. if u want to know more abour virus click this link..they will help u http://www.biology-online.org/1/9_pathogens.htm, but its true virus are not living they have genetic material and stuff but in order for them to reproduse they need a cell

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Postby Poison » Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:16 pm

is that link still working? I couldn't open the page. can you please check that adam00f?
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Postby oso » Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:09 am

doesn't grow, doesn't reproduce
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Postby 2810712 » Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:54 am

Yeah, i also, calling living or non-living is matter of convinience i believe that there is a level of livingness amd deadness of every organ even we are not 100% living and the PC is not 100% non living [ if u know REKI and etc u'll understand why] So, we should actually not defined life correctly . Prions , samilar case, but less living ness as no inheriance observed.

PS: this is complicated . ARe u boared ???


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Postby MrMistery » Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:16 pm

2810712 i posted something similar- one of my first posts. I'm glad to see that there is someone that agrees with me
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Postby 2810712 » Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:13 am

i'm also glad to learn this.

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Postby thank.darwin » Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:37 pm

We are made up of atoms and atoms are not living so you could say that we are made up of a bunch of dead things. :D
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Postby biostudent84 » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:14 pm

thank.darwin wrote:We are made up of atoms and atoms are not living so you could say that we are made up of a bunch of dead things. :D


I wouldn't say "dead", but rather "non-living"
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Postby mith » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:25 pm

right because dead means it was once living.

One of the great questions about life is whether life is simply the complex interactions between simple molecules, governed by the laws of chemistry and physics, or whether life is something imbued into these atoms. Without going into a metaphysical debate, I just want everyone to consider if all life is mechanical, how can something be judged "more living"?
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Postby 2810712 » Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:27 pm

Something that is metaphysical for 'modern' science today, can be physical later and that things may have been realized by ancient people. This is not impossible. So , don't neglect the metaphysical things, think upon and u may have a new discovery of yours.

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