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Postby standby » Tue May 30, 2006 2:21 pm

Arrow,

Thanks for the info. It indead is interesting as an option for alternative treatment and you seem to be well versed on the subject.

If you don't mind maybe you could share some of the statistics and any documentation (other than from marketing type sites) that can verify the claims you have stated below. So many have spent so much trying this and trying that.....only to find it has done nothing but empty their bank accounts.

Thanks for this consideration.

Arrow wrote:Ozone therapy has a reputation for killing microbes that antibiotics can not deal with such as MRSA, vancomycin resistent e-coli and most any mold or fungus that you can think of. It can kill candida. It has a reputation for treating lyme disease. It is known to cure HIV, or at least to bring all markers down and totally reverse the AIDS complex of diseases.Through over 50 years of use and millions of applications it has proven safe and effective in many complex diseases when correctly applied. .........

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Postby 1arrow » Tue May 30, 2006 3:45 pm

Standby,

I am so sure people are spending a ton of money and in the face of job loss, too. It is awful.

I have been having a hard time logging in. So I have come in under this new screen name. Arrow and 1Arrow are the same person.

I practice ozone therapy only for myself and my family. In regard to ozone I am really a nobody. But I do see its potential and I have been learning about it for almost 2 years now. I am posting here significant websites to be reviewed.

Ozone has been in use medically for over 50 years. It is the treatment that the pharmaceutical industry and the FDA do not want you to know about. I suggest that you get Ed McCabes book "Flood You Body With Oxygen" from amazon. He is the one who has tromped across Europe trying to figure out what is going on over there.

There is no big organization that I know of that collects data on the effectiveness of ozone but I am sure someone out there is doing it. I just don't know who or where at this point. There could possibly be in Germany where it is used extensively in private clinics. It is used throughout Europe. It can be found in Mexico as well as countries in South America. There are international and national organizations that promote the use of ozone and I bet they collect tons of data. There are training seminars, mostly in Europe but I did just attend one in Nevada.

If you go to Saul Pressmans (yahoo groups on ozone) site there has been talk there about successful use in Lyme. You can join the forum and post questions to him. He is quite experienced. He stays away from political topics and will not discuss IV administration much. On these questions he e-mailed me privately so check your yahoo mail box if you think he is ignoring you on the forum. ... It is used in hospitals around the world. I have read that surgical wounds are flushed with ozonated saline before closure. If anyone wants to try this modality they will have to do some research and they will either have to purchase equipement and do it themselves or find a practitioner who is willing to take it on. I would like to see just one person attempt it. Then we will have a good idea as to whether it should be pursued actively by everyone.

For ozone to work you have to get it to the microbe where it can make contact. My biggest concern with the treatment of morgellons is that we do not know if it is a species that loves oxygen and H202 or hates it. MRSA, e-coli and just about every micro organism that inflicts the human body dies in the presence of ozone and the natural enzyme systems it stimulates in the body.

Ozone can be applied in many different ways. 250 cc of blood can be taken out of the body and ozone added and retured to the body. This must be done by a physcian and requires significant skill. Ozone can be applied rectally or vaginally and many practitioners feel that this is nearly as effective as the blood method. Ozone has been given directly IV and this is mostly what HIV people do as far as I am aware. You can drink ozonated water and I have cured an H-pylori stomach ulcer with this. You can place an infected limb into a plastic bag and fill it with ozone. This is a common application for gangrene or staph or other skin infections. You can do ozone saunas where the whole body, except the head is emersed in an ozone steam vapor and this as most of the protocols can be done at home. Ozone can be inhaled if it is first bubbled through olive oil which changes the ozone into safe yet potent ozonides.

And the one way I am thinking of doing an intial test is with ozonated olive oil. When ozone is bubbled through olive oil it builds up in the oil and stays there for a long time. Longer if you freeze it. This oil can be applied topically and can be purchased over the internet.

Because some doctors or nurse practitioners have been having partial success in treatment with antibiotics I would start with the hypothesis that Morgellons microbs are susceptible to ozone. ALL other microbes and virus have proven to be susceptible.

With the use of antibiotics we must be concerned of developing strains of morgellons that are fully lethal as we have created with staph and e-coli and other bacterias that now plague our hospitals and are even showing up in the outside community. These resistent infections are moving from the hospital into the outside environment. I have seen this! I have seen people coming from the community into the hospitals with these infections full blown. This is another reason that Ozone must be known about and recognized as a valuable treatment. I am seeing MRSA spread through families.

Here is a site for a dentist that is setting up ozone trials in South Africa for Morgellons. I have tried to contact him but no success yet. Maybe because I went to him with questions instead of telling him I had morgellons and wanted to be part of a trial. Then again he may only be interessted in people in his own country, who knows.

Magellons Disease and Ozone http://www.the-o-zone.cc/clintrial01.html

I will soon post an article by Dr Shallenberger on the effects of ozone in the body. I'm really hoping you guys will read it. Dr Shallenberger practices in Nevada. I do not think he has experience with Morgellons but who knows, maybe he does. Maybe he would like to try treating it.

http://www.antiagingmedicine.com/

Now here are reference links.

OZONE IN MEDICINE DR. SUNNEN
http://www.triroc.com/sunnen/topics/ozonemed.htm
http://www.triroc.com/sunnen/

http://www.lightparty.com/Health/Ozone.html

http://www.ozonio.com.br/medical.htm

http://www.oxygenhealingtherapies.com/index.htm
this site has leads to practitioners/doctors who use ozone

http://www.o3center.org/
this site info compiled from Saul Pressmans forum.


http://www.ozonegenerator.co.uk/ozonetherapy.html

http://www.id-nl.com/sub/19789.htm

http://www.lifestylestherapeutics.com/Ozone.html

ozone therapy references http://www.otsoniterapia.net/viitteet.htm

http://www.garynull.com/Documents/ozone.htm

http://www.altered-states.net/barry/update107/frame.htm

http://www.plasmafire.com
this company sells all components and accessories

http://www.appliedozone.com/

Ed Mccabe & Ozone Therapy - A History & References Article
http://www.silvermedicine.org/ed-mccabe-ozone.html

Magellons Disease and Ozone http://www.the-o-zone.cc/clintrial01.html

http://www.vaginalhealth.co.uk/ozone.html

Longevity Resources http://www.ozonegenerator.com/Main/downloads.htm
this company sells all components and accessories and is where I got my machine

http://www.diagnose-me.com/treat/T216805.html


http://www.ozone.enaly.com/EOZ-300Y.htm
This machine I include because it is only about $50. It is a cold corona machine. I have it and have used it some connected up to oxygen. I contacted the company that sells them (they are made in China) and they assured me that the internal parts are ozone compatible made from stainless steel, glass, silicone tubing. Because it is so inexpensive I have had worry that it may be defective or insufficient in some way. I did use it to make ozonated water to cure an H pylori stomach ulcer and I have done insufflations with it. I include it for those who cannot afford the machines I really recommend, the Longevity or Plasmafire that are Canadian approved for medical use, is my understanding, and they are machines that doctors use. Because I am unsure of this machine I do not recommend it. ( but hey, that didn't stop me from using it, I tend to be more reckless with myself than others) and with this machine I have not learned well how to calculate dosage. dosage is an issue in the use of ozone.

Ozone practitioners can be found in many states but you have to dig around to find them.

Please forgive me for posting some commercial sites I think it is important to see them to get an idea about what is out there and how different people are approaching it and I'm sorry that most of the references in the references site are in another language. That is just the nature of the beast. Ozone is blocked from the US. Most if not all significant research in in foreign countries.. It took me a long time to gather this info together. So now you have it.

Ask me questions and I will try to answer the best I can.

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Postby RANDY » Tue May 30, 2006 9:54 pm

Doc reports:

Went to sarcoid doc today (1PM) and he stated that the sores and the aches and pains are not sarc according to him. Ace OK, Vitamin D OK,,C-reactive protein still elevated along with platelets. Lungs fine too.

Went to the Urologist last week and he stated that the lesions on the Kidney have nothing to do with my sores and lesions on the skin and everything looks fine.

Went to the Gyno today (9AM) and after an ultrsound she told me that according to the tests the lesions and sores have nothing to do with the mass in my ovary.

My last week's third time, CT scan shows inflammed lymph nodes (still) but there is no cancer and the sarc would not have them enlarged so without an ACE or D level being elevated..so not because of Sarc. Have no idea why>

In fact the non-caseating granulomas are a detection of Sarc but I have no other signs..maybe this condition we have creates non-caseating granulomas.....first step..along with a test positive for lyme..hum.......even when no lyme exists.

Also getting a CA-125 done just to be sure of the Ovary thing.

So we have checked out my female parts, my pissy parts and my sarc realted parts and none of what is wrong with me is related to those.

So we have eliminated many parts. Which is good. elimination is good....it is a step in the right direction.

So next we have the lesions on the Thyroid although the TSH is fine and last but not least will be the rear end of it all, literally speaking.

If the colon checks out ( the blood work already did) then none of these doctors know what is wrong with me..which is a process of elimination..sorry for the pun........which is what we all have to do.

Get each one to say..Not my department.....you have funny tests results but I have no idea why?

That is a very important step, while looking for advance level info without knowing basic biology.

My, my, my so many red herrings today!

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Postby 1arrow » Tue May 30, 2006 10:52 pm

RANDY,

So this docs tell you that the lesions on your kidney and the mass on your ovary have nothing to do with the granulomas? That your aches and pains have nothing to do with sarcoid? Yet your lymph nodes are inflammed.

What is it that make you think you have sarcoidosis?

No, nothing has anything to do with anything yet your sick as a dog. With some kind of microbe crawling under your skin. HMMMM

Ah the allopathic mindset. So incohesive. Arbitrary. Disjointed.

I do hope you take some time to read my post on Ozone therapy.

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Postby RANDY » Tue May 30, 2006 11:52 pm

I had a biopsy when I was rushed to the ER with lower quadrant pains thinking it was perhaps another kidney stone ( I have had 3 in the last 6 years...two litho-trips and 1 basket removal) or an appendix attack. They did a CT and found my lymph nodes were really enlarged...so they did a biopsy and found non-caseating granulomas and also H-Pylori..they went down through my mouth.

So, since I have had this horrible disease for over 4.5 years..the best thing fo rme to do is to keep solid medical records of everything..I have a HUGE binder and then show each doc what the other has written and compare and evaluate.

Also I have gone from perfecto mensas (Big Ben came to me for the correct time) to nada post menopausal in 8 months....much earlier than anyone in my family ever did. This thing messes with your hormones and C-reactive protein levels.

I am now finding out what it is not....so when they all realize that it is something but no one wants to take responsibility for it..it will count.....as something.

And since we now have a baseball player on our sick team...senators will listen....plus Feinstein is involved...so those are two good things the Morg camp found out about.

It is also best to get a psych evaluation so you can rule out crazy too. I have had that already and other than an high IQ..and being a little high strung ..I am fine.

I am going next week for a MEMORY Study...which they actually pay you for, so I will have a grip on my cognitivie processes too.

As I have lectured to everyone...you have to have all your tests and records and rule out as much as you can so they have to figure something out.

Then we have to understand DNA and how things in our bodies work before we cut and paste till the dogs come barking home understanding nothing at all and pretending we do.

But..no one listens to me..I am evil.....right guys?

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Postby RANDY » Tue May 30, 2006 11:59 pm

Paleantology..really......ewwwwwwwww.....maybe we should not be digging up the rainforest....so this could be an ancient bug.....gonna take a look to see.
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Postby 1arrow » Wed May 31, 2006 12:01 am

Randy,

So once you get all this information what do you think you can do with it?

What will it prove? That your not crazy. That your smart. That your sick and they haven't a clue?

What will you do with all that information?

What will it mean to anyone?

I assume your already seeing competent doctors?

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Postby 1arrow » Wed May 31, 2006 12:06 am

December, 2000


13 Major Effects of Ozone on the Body
by Dr. Frank Shallenberger

1. Ozone stimulates the production of white blood cells These cells protect the body from viruses, bacteria, fungi and cancer. Deprived of oxygen, these cells malfunction. They fail to eliminate invaders and even turn against normal, healthy cells (allergic reactions). Ozone significantly raises oxygen levels in the blood for long periods after ozone administration; as a result, allergies have a tendency to become desensitized.

2. Interferon levels are significantly increased Interferons are globular proteins. Interferons orchestrate every aspect of the immune system. Some interferons are produced by cells infected by viruses. These interferons warn adjacent, healthy cells of the likelihood of infection; in turn, they are rendered nonpermissive host cells. In other words, they inhibit viral replication. Other interferons are produced in the muscles, connective tissue and by white blood cells. Levels of gamma interferon can be elevated 400-900% by ozone. This interferon is involved in the control of phagocytic cells that engulf and kill pathogens and abnormal cells. Interferons are FDA approved for the treatment of Chronic Hepatitis B and C, Genital Warts (caused by Papillomavirus), Hairy-cell Leukemia, Karposi's Sarcoma, Relapsing-Remitting Multiple Sclerosis and Chronic Granulomatous Disease. Interferons are currently in clinical trials for Throat Warts (caused by Papillomavirus), HIV infection, Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia Leukemia, Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma, Colon tumors, Kidney tumors, Bladder Cancer, Malignant Melanoma, Basal Cell Carcinoma and Leishmaniasis. While levels induced by ozone remain safe, interferon levels that are FDA approved (and in clinical trials) are extremely toxic.

3. Ozone stimulates the production of Tumor Necrosis Factor TNF is produced by the body when a tumor is growing. The greater the mass of the tumor the more tumor necrosis factor is produced (up to a point). When a tumor has turned metastatic, cancer cells are breaking off and being carried away by the blood and lymph. This allows the tumor to take up residence elsewhere in the body; or in other words, divide its forces. These lone cancer cells have little chance of growing due to the TNF produced to inhibit the original tumor. When the tumor is removed surgically TNF levels drop dramatically and new tumors emerge from seemingly healthy tissue.

4. Ozone stimulates the secretion of IL-2. Interluekin-2 is one of the cornerstones of the immune system. It is secreted by T-helpers. In a process known as autostimulation, the IL-2 then binds to a receptor on the T-helper and causes it to produce more IL-2. Its main duty is to induce lymphocytes to differentiate and proliferate, yielding more T-helpers, T-suppressors, cytotoxic T's, T-delayed's and T-memory cells.

5. Ozone kills most bacteria at low concentrations. The metabolism of most bacteria is on average one-seventeenth as efficient as our own. Because of this, most cannot afford to produce disposable antioxidant enzymes such as catalase. Very few types of bacteria can live in an environment composed of more than two percent ozone.

6. Ozone is effective against all types of fungi This includes systemic Candida albicans, athletes foot, molds, mildews, yeasts and even mushrooms.

7. Ozone fights viruses in a variety of ways. As discussed above, ozone also goes after the viral particles directly. The part of the virus most sensitive to oxidation is the "reproductive structure." This is how the virions enter the cell. With this structure inactivated, the virus is essentially "dead." Cells already infected have a natural weakness to ozone. Due to the metabolic burden of infection, the cells can no longer produce enzymes necessary to deal with the ozone and repair the cell.

8. Ozone is antineoplastic. This means that ozone inhibits the growth of new tissue because rapidly dividing cells shift their priorities away from producing the enzymes needed to protect themselves from the ozone. Cancer cells are rapidly dividing cells and are inhibited by ozone.

9. Ozone oxidizes arterial plaque It breaks down the plaque involved in both Arteriosclerosis and Arthrosclerosis. This means ozone has a tendency to clear blockages of large and even smaller vessels. This allows for better tissue oxygenation in deficient organs.

10. Ozone increases the flexibility and elasticity of red blood cells When one views a red blood cell under a microscope, it looks like a disc. In the capillaries, where they pick-up (lungs) and release (tissue) oxygen, these discs stretch out into the shape of an oval or umbrella. This aids their passage through the tiny vessels and makes the exchange of gas more efficient. The increase in flexibility of the RBC's allows oxygen levels to stay elevated for days, even weeks after treatment with ozone.

11. Ozone accelerates the Citric Acid Cycle. Also known as the Kreb's Cycle or TCA Cycle, this is a very important step in the glycolisis of carbohydrate for energy. This takes place in the mitochonria of the cell. Most of the energy stored in glucose (sugar) is converted in this pathway.

12. Ozone makes the antioxidant enzyme system more efficient.

13. Ozone degrades petrochemicals. These chemicals have a potential to place a great burden on the immune system. They also worsen and even cause allergies and are detrimental to your long-term health.

Considered one of the leading authorities on medical ozone, Dr. Shallenberger has done important work to support the hypothesis that ozone can have long-term positive effects on AIDS. He has also conducted workshops on the proper application of medical ozone at an International Ozone Symposium in Texas. He successfully treats patients with medical ozone via Major Autohemotherapy.
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Postby RANDY » Wed May 31, 2006 12:13 am

The best way to show what something is, is to show what it is not.

If the docs say I can not figure it out...bu they know you have something..that actaully does help you gain credability.

If you want to talk to me about this, you can call me 434-974-7128.

And about the Ozone....I have not investigated it enough to make an educated decision, but most of us are pretty darn poor and if we have medical it has to cover treatments.

But call me if you want to talk.


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Postby RANDY » Wed May 31, 2006 12:15 am

http://www.djclarke.co.uk/file09.html

This is my first search and what I found out.

Still looking.
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Postby London » Wed May 31, 2006 12:29 am

Dear Arrow,

I have not read your post yet but only know they are about OZone.....which is something i predicted way back when

as a means to healing us.....I will get around to your post later this evening. Just wanted to say Thanks!

Randy,

Thanks for sharing your test results.....HEY>>>>think about this: Say we are indeed infected with a synthetic microbe (transgenic, GM- you know what I'm saying) Well, what if this will not ever show up in testing?

I have asked this question for months but never have recieved an answer from anyone?

Question again.....DOES A GM MICROORGANISM NOT SHOW UP ON REGULAR TEST?

Canalon, Do you know this answer???


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Postby 1arrow » Wed May 31, 2006 12:33 am

And about the Ozone....I have not investigated it enough to make an educated decision, but most of us are pretty darn poor and if we have medical it has to cover treatments.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well, Randy, you can pay for your medical treatment with your insurance and have a cure that is worth nothing or you can find another way.

When you realize just how ineffective antibiotic treatments are, and that is all they are ever going to offer you you will realize that a new path must be found. Only a portion of people with lyme get cured with antibiotics. So far all the big gun antibiotics have done dam little for Morgellons. So we are dealing with an antibiotic resistent microorganism.

I would like to talk to you and what I want to talk about is ozone. I am hoping some people will SEE this possibility. This possibility must be tested.

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