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Postby RANDY » Fri May 26, 2006 10:19 pm

I am sorry for your loss.

Please understand that I have been telling everyone for quite some time now that this disease screws with a womans reproductive system. I am now watching a friend who has this go through her first month of pregnancy.

This disease causes massive fluctuation in hormonal levels of the female.
Many of us women have gone through early menospause. This is a fact.

We have not had a study of preganant women as of yet. My friend will be the irst that I know of.

As far as I know, and I could be wrong the ability for the plasenta to attach and hold on is hormonal and fluctuations in the levels of FSH and LH serum.

I would ahve her hormonal levels checked out to see if there are any irregularities.

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Postby Skytroll » Sat May 27, 2006 2:04 am

South and friend,

I am so sorry to hear about your loss. If there is anything we can do now, please let us know.
My prayers are with you both.

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Cilla,

I got this in 1991, when I visited Ca. was around San Francisco, San Leandro, Oakland, Berkely area, Antioch, Stanford, had to take a brother to Stanford to have computer put on wheelchair - he suffers from Muscular Dystrophy, and Livermore, near where Livermore Labs are. Went there by train and back.

In 92 flew out for another brother's funeral, again I was around the same areas.

In 2000 went by train again, saw a suspicious person, of which I later notified the FBI about, but, they checked into it. I received no further notice.

I went to wrap up my mother's affairs, she was having Alzheimer like symptoms, but, later found out her diabetic drugs were off, and she was being drugged by many things. She had lost 100lbs in 5 months, was not eating, her arms were causing pain, the same pain I have now, in shoulders, and down arms. She had trouble walking. I believe she had this. We were able to put her on Relive, a nutritional product, which later did help her. I brought her back to Mi., she stayed with me for 2 weeks and then I put her in a nursing home, she could not walk up and down my stairs.

The whole time, the lesions started, I was itching constantly, and every time I was around her, I would begin to itch. She had white worm-like creataures coming out of her skin, I mentioned to nursing home, but, they just said it was nothing.

She had the worse case of cataracts that the eye doctor had seen, and had carpal tunnel like pains in wrists. She was operated on and both the neurologist and orthopedic worked together, a rare occurance, but, nevertheless, she was walking with a walker after that. do not know if was Relive she was on, or if by taking out many of the fibers, or parasites, or worms, or construct, it stopped some of the destruction going on in her body, but, I became horrible worse, at times, unable to even visit the nursing home.

She died in 2005 after getting pneumonia, congestive heart failure, and no use of kidney, she had had one removed in 1991. Her kidney shut down. Previously, she had had heart surgery in 1998. It seems she deteriorated after that, she was confused, cried a lot, and physically was in bad shape in 2000.

I was out there for about three weeks, again vistied sister in Livermore, right across from Livermore Labs.

So, I have my doubts about Livermore Labs, who now is working with some universities.

LLLab is a level 3 also. Now, maybe this construct was passed around level 3 labs. Could that be a possibility?

If Tam Tam says they were looking at this in 1978, any lab could have gotten hold of this construct, for purposes of reasearch. This is my thought on it.

However, I believe that a letter is in order.

Thank you,

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Postby Skytroll » Sat May 27, 2006 2:06 am

Randy,

If the MRF will not petition NIH for funds, then how do they plan to fund research? Private funds?

I think if they can investigate this, we will at least have a start.

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about funding

Postby southcity » Sat May 27, 2006 2:25 am

this is how this question was answered to me.
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"All complaints You make are not at all justified because I give away things that every researcher would keep undisclosed. Be sure that all I show is real and if I would show all at once, reactions could become unpredictable.

I have made first a statement about what we have in front of us, and as it seems people like to complain and discuss things without even watching the video."

"What You fight is a lenient triangle of academia, medics, pharmaceutical industry, military and booming technology.

All like to know and work on effects of this type pathogen, but nobody will ever mention the facts.
You really think that all money involved to combat disease is used to combat disease?

Basically disease funds research and is also impetus of industry, hence economy."

"Only if all parameters are specified You can start to conclude.

CDC knows all about this element because I have informed them two times and I simply know that they already knew all about it.

Its a political thing without borders.

According to them the matter should burn out and the rest belongs to statistic.
All type industry will cause victims."


"Because this target is a thing on its own, you have to start from scrap, decide to invest and screen.
Things like this could already be on its way but You will not hear about it.

Screening is very expensive and to be able to apply for a research budget you first have to invest a considerable amount of money. Proposal is mostly written by more than one scientist.
Next; most research budgets are granted by the Industry.

Now just decide to write a proposal for a non existing disease that later on may prove that the industry cultivates solving effects instead of cause!"
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Postby RANDY » Sat May 27, 2006 3:32 am

You can not get research done without writing a grant. Not all things are known that why it is investigative grant.

You write the grant for under 500K and they allow you to research it and when it is time to renew for more than 500K they have a review of your work and they decide.

The NIH is the warehouse for grants that come from all over. Many people out there ear mark their money into researching things that are not yet known.

If I was a millionaire, I could have a foundation that earmarked money for research and I could ear mark it for anything I wanted.

There is so much money out there for research that not writing a grant if you have the people or the money to pay a grant writer makes no sense at all to me. It never did. And no pharm company will stand in the way of the NIH giving you money.

There is a form on the NIH site that walks you through what you have to do and it is really complicated. I tired to do it but fell short of being a scientist or finding one that had a university that woud allow him to do it. Plus it is complicated.

According to Elias at the NIH, you have to have a University behind you. They have to have the qualified people. They write it and the money is awarded and then you go from there like I said above.

That is how it is done.

Now Morgellons is getting good press. They are a media machine and that is what they are best at and I appreciate them for that. Thank you Ken.

They lack in research ability and funding but Wymore is doing all he can by himself and Ginger is a good voice of reason.

But as I predicted..with the Morgellons media doing their thing, someone will pick this up and that person will write a grant and when this person discovers what it is they will have the right to name the disease anyway they see fit.

When you discover what a disease is you are allowed to name it, not before. But they gave it a face, so be it.

So bless be Morgellons for getting media coverage and talking to people. The fact is that not only those in Florida , CA, and Texas have this. Many have it all over and not all have lyme. Those are my gripes.

No one is finding out the real thread that runs through all of us and no one will be abe to unless we all compare blood test. How sad to beat that dead horse.

Now there is a test that costs almost $4,000.00 that does all the test anyone could need but as of today insurance does not pay for it. It will tell you if you are going to get just about anything and what you have now..but it is beyond MY financial reach. ( See Scientific American magazine..last week.)

If we could get insurance to pay for this test for all of us or have a foundation that would pay for it, then we could compare our tests and find the commonality.

I have a web site set up for that, if it happens in the future. At least it is there. Anyone can use it if they want to go at it. I designed it but have not activated it as of yet. I do have a non-profit in Washington State but it is not a Federal Non-Profit yet.

http://thesherwoodforestgroup.com

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Postby Skytroll » Sat May 27, 2006 4:33 am

Cilla,

Now you are talking about investigation into releases, though, aren't you?

I am getting a bit confused by this.

If MRF does not want to write a grant proposal, then who will be benefited by this endeavor?

Now, if we petition them to investigate that is different. Investigating and researching are not one and the same. Can crossover, but, an investigation and research into what this is would be the first step, so I would have to agree with a full scale investigation from NIH first. We do not have to write a grant for that. Just letters of request.

Will get it yet, just having some brainlepathy.

hahaha.

Thanks all,
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Postby Skytroll » Sat May 27, 2006 4:38 am

South,

I found this in your neck of the woods, where you thought you got this.

from article:
Synthetic biologists reject controversial guidelines.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns? ... print=true

The need for expert human checks may be one factor deterring some companies from screening orders. Others like to reassure customers who may be worried about commercial confidentiality that their sequence data will remain secret. But whatever the reasons, some firms freely admit that they run no sequence screens. "That's not our business," says Bob Xue, a director of Genemed Synthesis in South San Francisco.

Source:
http://www.kurzweilai.net/news/frame.ht ... ?id%3D5493

So, many orders are not screened. And they do worry about gene sequence in propietary modes.
More info further at above webpage.

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Postby Skytroll » Sat May 27, 2006 4:51 am

South,

I think we need to know what is out there now.

In otherwords, we need to know why there is biosynthesis going on in the first place.

The Second International Conference on Synthetic Biology (SB2.0) took place on May 20-22, 2006, at the University of California, Berkeley. The conference brought together a diverse group of participants from a variety of disciplines, including some of the world’s leaders in biological engineering, biochemistry, quantitative biology, biophysics, molecular and cellular biology, bioethics, policy and governance, and the biotech industry. A collaborative effort among Berkeley Lab, MIT, UC Berkeley, and UCSF, the conference sought to promote and guide the further, constructive development of the field.
Source:
http://pbd.lbl.gov/sbconf/

Now, what are the motives here? Why are they all gathering together? And why biosynthesize?

Why do we need synthetic pieces of nature, when we have nature?

Maybe, I ask too many questions.

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Postby Linn » Sat May 27, 2006 4:59 am

Just want to share this good resource I found
for all of you to help you research
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Hello skytroll

Postby southcity » Sat May 27, 2006 5:13 am

[quote="Skytroll"]South,

I think we need to know what is out there now.

In otherwords, we need to know why there is biosynthesis going on in the first place.

Well if you ask too many then so do I. Here is a partial answer to your question as it was explained to me.

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Its all not so difficult to understand since the principle to create new cell line is reconstituted by this CBL. Its a model organism and it harbors much R&D of the past.

The wing cell related cell line are related to bio sensor. Spot on insect wing are like eyes. Eye are able to register difference in potential (frequencies) So its also about molecule and molecule combinations (protein) that sense in various way

Small particle research (CERN) relates to the origin of life. If You step up further You end up with the most old (known) language of life: Cyano.

Cyano represents the source code of all life.

Cyano only needs water and light to procreate (water on Mars?) Top scientific research relating to the source code of life is not put on the street since it represents supremacy.

Basically the suggestion is that a percentage of sick people is needed to fund R&D.

If all the money relating to research in e.g plasmodium (malaria) would have been used to understand how a medicine would have to look, malaria would not be a problem today.

Fact is that plasmodium is a potential bio warfare agent( like all other api complexa) The fact that this natural pathogen will keep developing economies away from creating momentum is another factor.

A pathogen represents billions and to take a cause of disease away is a disaster for many.

To control and regulate is state of the art.
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Postby ukguy » Sat May 27, 2006 10:55 am

South

Very sorry to hear about your loss.
This becomes quite a different matter now.

Take care South

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Postby London » Sat May 27, 2006 1:08 pm

This is not a joke. It may be STUPID; but not a joke.

I'm writing to Fidel Castro asking for his help from his Medical /Science
Society......stating the AWFUL way that our own Gov't has treated our repeated pleas for help.....that maybe he could "Urge" our Gov't to get on the ball....i.e., or maybe he will "offer (publicly) to our Gov't/ CDC-etc., the use of his Gov't Scientific Team since Ours are doing N_A_D_A!!!
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