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Postby Linn » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:11 pm

That said - have people tried collaborating with morgellons.org ?

they keep us updated threw e-mails we are all registered there,
it is they who are dealing with the CDC, the CDC will not even
talk to us "commoners" This is "by the people" org we want to start.

BTW thanx for the info about free site, Sky and Helen what do you
think of that?

I have a feeling i am goind to need to finance that new scope after all!! And do self-research (sigh)

as far as isolating the organism gos you are correct about the contamination, it will have to be tedious process of elimination.

I hate to say this because I do not wish this on any one,
but more doctors and micr-bio lab researchers need to
come down with this disease.
there is sympathy and then there is EMPATHY :evil:
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Postby John Kern » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:12 pm

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John,

Never mind the fibers, (for now). Can you explain the feathers?


I've heard a few people mention finding feathers under the skin. That sounds very wierd. But I've not seen any photos. There are loads of photos on the net of fibers. Can you point me to some of the feathers? Or some site that gives a description - like actual measurements.

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Postby London » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:17 pm

John,

Thank you for the hyperlink.

Concerning my Derm...........

No, I had to argue with her and bring her my Doppler Sonograms to
prove to her.....

Then She would not look at the fibers- just sid they were hairs. I said
" Lady, since when in the Hell have you seem green, red, black fibers
plus other colors on someones hair?" ( arm?)

She just got pissy b/c she was no longer winning at playing God.

John,

To really prove this.....The men are getting this line-like appearence
(like an eyelash, but brown) on their private area-specifically on
the place where there is no hair follicles!!!!

This was the deciding factor!!!! She then said that there was no way for it to be folliculitis.
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Postby John Kern » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:46 pm

Linn wrote:
That said - have people tried collaborating with morgellons.org ?

they keep us updated threw e-mails we are all registered there,
it is they who are dealing with the CDC, the CDC will not even
talk to us "commoners" This is "by the people" org we want to start.


Speaking of the CDC, did you see their response to (now ex) Senator Robert Graham

http://www.texramp.net/~chazman/cdc01.jpg

These are the links in the letter:

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/misc/bacterial_zoonotic_shipping.htm

http://www.dpd.cdc.gov/dpdx/

Some interesting stuff there. In the last link they have an image gallery of parasites and their eggs, etc - might be useful for comparing existing images.

Particularly interesting is the Filariasis page - tiny parasites that look like fibers.

http://www.dpd.cdc.gov/dpdx/HTML/ImageLibrary/Filariasis_il.htm

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Postby Linn » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:49 pm

thanx John,
I will read later
I am going to need a lot of info if I am to self diagnosis this :(

Happy,
new covenent night everyone
or passover? :)
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Postby London » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:53 pm

Oh Miss Lynne,

I simply googled slime molds containing parasites and got this for you:

http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultran ... tists.html

You also asked me if I was ever exposed to it( the insectidcides? )

Loooks like we all were (Morg victims).
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Postby London » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:59 pm

John,

Maybe you cxan explain this one. I must admit, you are very good at explaining things. I also apologize for appearing rude- I thought you

were here to start trouble. I can't deal with any more of that in my life.

Most of us have lost our ability to function in society, thus we have lost our jobs!

This is really a sad situation we are in.

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/93/15/7432.pdf

and here is a very good one, look at the chart on page 3

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/79/17/5337.pdf
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I googled how slime molds gain entry into our homes and found this:

http://www.freedrinkingwater.com/water- ... anisms.htm
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Postby London » Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:10 am

and last one John,

here you go on gm organisms

http://flybase.org/
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Postby London » Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:35 am

ENGINEERING SYNTHETIC VECTORS FOR IMPROVED DNA DELIVERY: Insights from Intracellular Pathways

Charles M. Roth1,2 and ­Sumati Sundaram1­
1Department of Chemical and Biochemical Engineering, Rutgers University, Piscataway, New Jersey 08854; email: cmroth@rci.Rutgers.edu

and 2Department of Biomedical Engineering, Rutgers University, Piscataway, New Jersey 08854;


Significant progress has been made in the area of nonviral gene delivery to date. Yet, synthetic vectors remain less efficient by orders of magnitude than their viral counterparts. Research continues toward unraveling and overcoming various barriers to the efficient delivery of DNA, whether in plasmid form encoding a gene or as an oligonucleotide for the selective inhibition of target gene expression. Novel components for overcoming these hurdles are continually being incorporated into the design of synthetic vectors, leading to increasingly more virus-like particles. Despite these advances, general principles defining the design of synthetic vectors are yet to be developed fully. A more quantitative analysis of the cellular uptake and intracellular processing of these vectors is required for the rational manipulation of vector design. Mathematical frameworks with a more conceptual basis will help obtain an integrated perspective on these complex systems. In this review, we critically examine the progress made toward the improved design of synthetic vectors by the strategic exploitation of intracellular mechanisms and explore newer possibilities to overcome obstacles in the practical realization of this field
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Postby London » Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:36 am

ENGINEERING SYNTHETIC VECTORS FOR IMPROVED DNA DELIVERY: Insights from Intracellular Pathways

Charles M. Roth1,2 and ­Sumati Sundaram1­
1Department of Chemical and Biochemical Engineering, Rutgers University, Piscataway, New Jersey 08854; email: cmroth@rci.Rutgers.edu

and 2Department of Biomedical Engineering, Rutgers University, Piscataway, New Jersey 08854;


Significant progress has been made in the area of nonviral gene delivery to date. Yet, synthetic vectors remain less efficient by orders of magnitude than their viral counterparts. Research continues toward unraveling and overcoming various barriers to the efficient delivery of DNA, whether in plasmid form encoding a gene or as an oligonucleotide for the selective inhibition of target gene expression. Novel components for overcoming these hurdles are continually being incorporated into the design of synthetic vectors, leading to increasingly more virus-like particles. Despite these advances, general principles defining the design of synthetic vectors are yet to be developed fully. A more quantitative analysis of the cellular uptake and intracellular processing of these vectors is required for the rational manipulation of vector design. Mathematical frameworks with a more conceptual basis will help obtain an integrated perspective on these complex systems. In this review, we critically examine the progress made toward the improved design of synthetic vectors by the strategic exploitation of intracellular mechanisms and explore newer possibilities to overcome obstacles in the practical realization of this field

http://arjournals.annualreviews.org/doi ... ode=bioeng
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an even better one:

Insecticide Resistance in Malaria Vectors
5-9 March 2001, Harare, Zimbabwe


http://www.mim.su.se/english/events/ins ... tions.html
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Postby London » Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:46 am

Laboratory-Scale Evidence for Lightning-Mediated Gene Transfer in Soil


http://aem.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/67/8/3440
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Postby John Kern » Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:47 am

London wrote:
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/93/15/7432.pdf

and here is a very good one, look at the chart on page 3

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/79/17/5337.pdf
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I'm note sure what you want me to explain here? What the articles mean? Or was there a specific part?

London wrote:I googled how slime molds gain entry into our homes and found this:

http://www.freedrinkingwater.com/water- ... anisms.htm


That site seems to be focussing on trying to sell water filters, so I'd not trust their science too much. Not that it's wrong science, just that they are trying to make you think that water quality is a bigger problem than it actually is.

That aside - there are three types of slime mold, Plasmodial, Cellular and Labyrinthulomycota (or "slime nets", for actual pronunciation). You are probably interested in cellular slime molds, since they are quorum sensing. Plasmodial slime molds fuse together in a way similar to that mentioned in one of the articles, but are not quorum sensing.

It's true you see cellular slime molds in genetic research, particularly Dictyostelium, since it's got a nice short genome, and a rapid life cycle.

The flybase.org link is about a similar thing, drosophila (fruit fly), which has a simple genome and rapid reproduction cycle.

But I'm still unclear as to why you think that genetic engineering is involved here. I've seen the long rambling pseudo-scientific posts in various places, and a video that basically repeats it. But I don't see any actual (or even circumstantial) evidence of genetic engineering.

You obviously are more familiar with the material than me. Can you point me at a fiber/GM link?

Similarly, what are the indications that point to some kind of cellular communication going on?

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