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Origin of Medicine Symbol

Postby BioBuff414 » Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:13 pm

Okay this is kind of off-topic but do you know that symbol that is always associated with health-care and prescription drugs. It looks like a stick with wings coming off of the sides and that thing wrapped around it? What is that called and what does it mean?
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Postby mith » Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:25 pm

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Postby Linn » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:38 am

That is from the bible :)
"How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these".

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Postby canalon » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:45 am

Linn wrote:That is from the bible :)

Huh?
It come from the Greek mythology. It is Hermes wand.... Google is your friend for more details.
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Postby Linn » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:49 am

No,
before that it came from the bible.
Are you going to make me find it? :(

I will give the verse if you want
tomorrow as I am retiring for the evening. :)
Its 12:05 AM and I have work at 7AM I knew I should not peek at this addicting forum :evil:

PS:
Google is your friend
you are too cute :)
I did double check to make sure it is the same symbol
we are taliking about. At least it is the origin of it.
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Postby canalon » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:13 am

Greek mithology came long before the Bible... The only thing in bible that i remember could compare to the caduceus would be when Pharao and Moses change their staff in snkes that fight together. But this does not explain the winged staff of the caduceus.

I also checked with Google and did not find any christian references. Okay I read only the first link, but I am really impatient to see what you can show to explain the biblical origin of such a pagan symbol :-)
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Postby mith » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:31 am

Later Moses would heal the people of the torment of snakes by placing a snake on a pole. The people would look to that bronze serpent and be healed. (Numbers 21.6).

I'll have to agree with Patrick on this one
http://drblayney.com/Asclepius.html
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Postby kiekyon » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:41 am

Canalon wrote:Greek mithology came long before the Bible... The only thing in bible that i remember could compare to the caduceus would be when Pharao and Moses change their staff in snkes that fight together. But this does not explain the winged staff of the caduceus.

I also checked with Google and did not find any christian references. Okay I read only the first link, but I am really impatient to see what you can show to explain the biblical origin of such a pagan symbol :-)


the bible is written over a long period of time, the jesus part is in the roman era.
however we are talking about moses and pharaoh here, therefore it is likely that this part is earlier than the Greeks.
i have to agree with u though, didn't find anything like a winged staff in the bible
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Postby Cilla » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:19 pm

I think it is aesculapian, pertaining to Aesculapius, the Greek god of medicine.

Nothing moves in this world that is not Greek, it has been said!
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Postby Cilla » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:25 pm

I think it is this god who had the healing wand, although Hermes, (the messenger), did fly about because he had winged ankles.

It is to the former god that medical students traditionally swear their allegiance, (this is part of the Hippocratic oath). Hippocrates, and his entourage, known as the founding fathers of modern medical ethics, lived, moved and had their being circa 500 years B.C.
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Postby kiekyon » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:15 pm

can someone post the pic here
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Postby Linn » Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:47 pm

Sorry, I forgot about this post, :)
I have been busy,busy,
so I didnt look it up yet.
But for some reason it was talked
about in class
when I was in nursing in 85.
We taliked about the Greek and biblical
origen of the sign. I guess some silly history.
of the two snakes intertwined
on the staff.
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