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Postby cardiorrhexis » Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:42 pm

Hey...I live near the biosphere.


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Postby Mikeseno » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:06 pm

This is obviously a ridiculous suggestion that would be more at home in a hollywood film script, but i'm quite interested by the question that "kiekyon" brought up. Does water block or magnify UV radiation? I realise this is more of a physics question but i'd be interested to find out.

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Postby kiekyon » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:36 am

Poison wrote:
kiekyon wrote:can water block uv rays?


Yes, up to a point.


not much though

i remember i did an assignment on uv last sem

we find an article saying that they are cases of sunburnt even among trouts
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Postby Linn » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:58 am

Yes I have heard it does.
Depends on thickness?
I will have to research that now
I am curious.
I know it blocks radiation.

The biosphere is so cool!!
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Postby Linn » Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:23 am

alextemplet wrote:Take it from an avid Bible-reader, that water-in-the-sky stuff is nowhere in the Bible. If she really believes the Bible, why does she believe that nonsense that isn't in it? When read correctly, the Bible agrees with science, it doesn't oppose it.


sorry I am a come lately to this conversation but I had to comment on the above
Alex, actually it is in the bible
On the second "day" 2000plus years after the beginning
of creation, of the earh, God made an expanse above the
earth called heaven The literal heaven ie: atmosphere.
..that formed a division between the waters below it (oceans)
and the waters above it. (Gen 1:6:8) The waters suspended
above the expanse remained therefrom that second day until
the flood.

No doubt these waters did shelter mankind from harmful rays
as the life expectancy changed dramatically after the flood,
probably from genetic damage. :)
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Postby alextemplet » Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:50 am

Assuming this actually happened, let's think about how Genesis 1 tells us that the world was constructed. The waters above were separated from the waters below by the dome of the sky; thus, the sky was in between the upper waters and the earth. Later, Genesis states that the sun (the source of UV rays), moon, and stars were placed in the sky, again in between the earth and the waters above. So the waters above would've been useless in blocking UV rays, since the sun was inside the waters. That's my point. The Bible says nothing about a sphere of water protecting the earth from the sun. There's also the question as to how any sunlight got through to the earth if such a sphere did exist, and how life could've existed at all without sunlight.

It's a mute point as whole anyway, since simply blocking UV rays wouldn't extend lifespans to almost 1000 years. Someone else also said the human body is designed to die after 200 years. For most of history, 70 was the commonly accepted lifespan, and Genesis itself says that man's maximum lifespan is 120 years. So those long ages have to be exagerated.
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Postby Linn » Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:57 am

just a wee comment I am trying to get
off this darn thing.

there is science explanations here I will get back to you.
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Postby David George » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:02 am

Linn you were telling some thing about genetical damage.How dare you speak about a genetical damage and you donot accept evolution.You are having a chicken in your hand and you say that you cannot prepare a chicken fry when everything required is there near you.Sorry if I am harsh.A mutation is suuposed to the raw material for evolution and that water above was just a foolish thought by the ancient Isralites formed just because ocean and sky are blue thay knew nothing about the physics part of it.I have read that noah lived for 900 years :lol: :lol: .
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Postby Linn » Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:32 pm

David,
you are entitled to your own opinion
You need to open your mind a bit there buddy :wink:
I already know you think religious people are stupid.
To believe in creation does not mean to abandon
scientific principles of which were founded by God.
most genetic mutations today are not beneficial to the organism,
unless you are for example, a virus
Even as has been pointed out other types of mutations
are often benign, I never said I didnt believe in mutations.
Is that what you think creationists do not believe in mutations?
They are pretty obvious.
David,
you need to read the Context f what people say.

Maybe you are joking again, but to say how dare sounds very....

whats the word...haughty????



Alex,

Paleobiogy is one science study that would
adress some of these questions

one discussion is about waht the atmosphere was like.
Besides water vapor, it also was full of carbon dioxide.
And prehistoric plants thrived under this atmosphere.


here are some links for you, there is 12 pages here:

http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/search?que ... e=spelling

Tell me if this link works for you. :)
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Postby alextemplet » Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:31 am

The atmosphere has varied much over earth's history, going from very low O2 to very high, humid to arid, and everything in between. Never has there been a huge sphere of water surrounding the earth. Never.
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Postby Linn » Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:51 am

well suit yourself
don't read up on it. :?

never say never
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Postby David George » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:43 am

I am sorry that I told you how dare but looks like some of my nerves got over excited.I donot get it still why don't you accept evolution when you accept mutation.I accept that mutations are not often beneficial to the species that experiences it but it is for the other species.I think you donot accept evolution for the sole reason that you say "God has made many miracles in my life".
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