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Postby skipbait » Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:59 pm

Regarding the fibers found in the lesions. I recall about 10 years
ago having a plantars wart on my foot. If anyone is familiar with
plantars warts, they grow inward with roots in the foot. They are
difficult to get rid of, but none the less I succeeded in ridding
myself of it.

But I also recall seeing black root like fibers within the wart as
I would dig it out daily and apply the killing poison liquid. I
had always thought what a nightmare it would be to have such
an inward growing wart on another part of my body. These
fiber / lesions you are describing remind me a great deal of
the plantars wart I had on my foot.

I wonder if they are related.
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Re: Morgellon's or ..........flies, or .......

Postby leah1973 » Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:50 pm

I have just stumbled across your dillema... Spring Tail (aka Collembola):

First things first... stop watering your plants in doors! It is probably why you have the problem with it. They eat fungus, especially yeast. I have found that running an air purifier helps tremendously. Keep your living environment dry and as dust free as possible... Dust mites and Spring Tail will be trapped by the collection grid of the air purifier. Vacuum every thing daily and wash your bedding in BORAX, HOT WATER AND NEVER USE A TOWEL MORE THAN ONCE!

Second - get a bottle of Bio-Kleen Bac-Out Enzyme Cleaner. It's marketed for laundry however, it's perfectly safe to use on your skin. Run a bath with wam - hot water and add a cup to your bath.

Third - start eating yogurt on a daily basis. This will kill any yeast in your digestive track, thereby minimizing the amount excreted through your pores.

Spring Tail Infestation is very real, no matter what the uninfested think! :idea:
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Postby Linn » Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:58 pm

hello
yes,they are real
that is an other theory I am looking in to.
and borax has the same effect as vinegar due ti acidity.
this organism can not propagate well in acidic enviroment.
that has been my observation. And springtails are infesting my daufghters house plant and we are thinking there is some conection here to our morgellons.
thankyou for posting
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Postby leah1973 » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:30 pm

Linn:
I had spent thousands of dollars being told I was delusional and it was not until I started researching the possibility of parasites that I started getting some relief. Nature provides balance and I am certain there is a natural solution to this ever distressing problem. I am actually seeing the results and they are remarkable.


I have been having great success with Enzyme Baths... Both Bio-Kleen "BAC-OUT" and Natural Ginesis "Kleen Free' Enzymes in particular are very helpful... not to mention both kill fungus and yeast in addition to helping clean up insect infestation.

Additionally, I had started a candida detaox regime, along with taking Neem Leaf capsules. Neem Leaf (is a natural antifungal, antibacterial, pro and antibiotic and a natural insecticide (it stops the insects from being able to reproduce).

I have recently considered getting a scuba tank and going to ocean, sitting under the salt water. My certification class is next week. I will let you all know how that works out.

My advice is stop looking to doctors, they are paid by the pharmaceutical companies to treat symptoms and not disease.

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Postby Linn » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:46 pm

Leah,
thank you for the tips.
I have reviewed the site of spring tail (collombolla)
The insects on her plants look just like thrips larvae stage.. In fact that is what we thought they were.
However we have been unable to erradicate them with the usual pesticides.
even malathion did not work. we are stumped.
I would try borax or vinegar but that would kill the plants. :cry:

I told my daughter to throw them out, but they are her "babys"
she has hundreds of plants.. beautiful and expensive orchids etc.
lynne

PS: edited:
just wanted to note that I have never had one of these collembolla on me. I am just discussing because I think there is more than one vector of this disease.
the insect that I have found is still unknown I have not been able to ID it.

I have extra slides of the thrip look alikes or whatever if any one would like to recieve via mail PM me if you are interested.

Insects in general have become highly resistent to pesticides and are proliferating (edit
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Postby Ken Ramos » Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:08 am

I am not familar with this infection, however my sympathy for those who do suffer from it. I noticed Springtails were mentioned. I really do not think that they are the etiological agent but here are some photographs for you to ponder. The first is a Springtail without fibers, the second with. Both photographs taken using a Meiji EMZ-13TR Stereomicroscope equipped with a Sony DSC-W5 digital camera _at_ 5 megapixel. Magnification approximately 35X, laboratory environment, found among the leaves of common moss.
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Postby Ken Ramos » Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:13 am

There were lots of fungal hyphae where these springtails were found. Your condition may be a fungal infection. I would be calling on a Mycologist instead of a regular physician. It seems you may be beating the wrong bush. But what do I know. :) OBTW, I own the copyrights to those images!
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Postby Linn » Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:24 am

Hi Ken, :)
thank you for your inPut and for joining us.

Yes, I agree with you.
have suggested many times that I believe that is the most possible explanation. I provided many links on the other thread too.
Many of the symptoms are the same ie lesions, itch etc...

And thank you for suggesting the specialist I was not aware there was such. I will see if there is one in Boston.
You nentioned fibers.
Ken do you have a theory about the fibers?
Respectfully,
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Postby Linn » Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:28 am

would the fibers be the structure of hyphae?

are those your colombolla pets? :lol: :lol: :lol: :P
The bottom one is a strange color blue.
I have never seen these spingtails before.
how did you ever find that?

Ps Ken what do I need to do to post pictures like that? I am not very computer savy, sorry to say. :oops:
unless my daughter helps me I am lost. And then I forget what she tells me. I have to write it down. Plus, having AOL doesnt help.
I am only good with windows, excel that kind of stuff. :lol:

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Postby Linn » Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:42 am

This is The official case definition for morgellons disease:

http://morgellons.org/casedef.html
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Postby Ken Ramos » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:54 am

There are many different species of Colomoblla. Some larger some smaller all have different colours, morphology varies slightly among them. I run across them all the time in my microscopic explorations. :D

To post images, all you have to do is click on "browse" at the bottom of your message reply screen. A window will open to your computer files. Select the appropriate file such as; "My Pictures." Double click on the image you want to attach or add to your reply. You will not see it until you click on "preview" or after having submitted your reply. Simple :D Now some forums do not have an image uploader so you would have to do it manually by typing in the location yourself from a web host server. :D

As for the structure of the fibers. I can only guess. I would not try to diagnose something I know nothing about. I only noticed your comment on the springtails and thought of the fibers and the photographs I have amassed of various micro organisms. There are so many little things yet to be discovered, maybe one day I will discover a new speices. :D It is quite probable you know. I have no theory as to what the fibers may be. I noticed some gentlemen in the Morgellons Update thread seemed to be sensibly hashing out some things. I thought that was interesting. :wink:
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Postby Linn » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:12 pm

Ken,

Thank you for telling how to post I will try it.
Dah,to me, I never thought of that! :oops:I feel so :oops: :lol: :lol:

that would be very exciting to find a new species.
Abd someone like you is more apt to find it because you are out there always looking.

Ken I rspect your opinion.
PM me as to those who are making sense if you wouldnt mind.
I would like to go back and review their comments.

and hello to all.

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