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Postby RANDY » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:23 pm

I have been to three lawyers about this with ALL my medical records in hand. Causation comes up over and over again. Also long term damage. As far a doctors go..how could they help you if the thing you have does not exist. How would they know. Go to the CDC site and type in what 90 % are calling Morgellons ( I prefer Fiber disease) NADA.

We need to go out on a limb and accuse and have those accused defend themselves but we need more facts even if they are weak.

I wrote the CD and here is what they wrote back. I am sednign out teh same letter via certified mail today. All of us should follow so we can have a class action in the futrue when the Shinola hits the fan.


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From: CDC Public Inquiry
Date: 01/23/06 10:36:03
To: cisfl2004@netzero.com
Subject: cpFW: information request

Thank you for your interest in CDC. Please specify the
pathogen/microorganism as CDC only has information on specific diseases
and conditions.



Thanks,

Public Inquiry
CP

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To: CDC Public Inquiry
Subject: Feedback from OD WWW Visitor

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Postby RANDY » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:43 pm

London, (and all)

I LOVE THIS SITE AND THIS THREAD. YOU GUYS ARE GREAT! ( I just had to say that.)

To answer London's questions:

My first cousins are both doctors. One is an immunologist in Toms River, NJ and the other is the head of the psych department at the University of Vermont but he also is a dentist and a surgeon....he liked school and was afraid to quit and work cuz then he would have to pay back his loans..we joked....we thought he would be a lawyer next but he found a wife and starting practicing. He is also a Harvard guy. Also my "almost" cousins , a family who I grew up with, our parents were close the boys are an airline pilot, a surgeon (cardiac) and a chiropractor. My good buddies who I also have known over 15 years are two docs from Argentina now practicing in the USA and a good friend on mine intorduced me to another doctor who was on my NETMEDVISIT.com site until we had a falling out. Along with all of these I am good friends with a Polish girl that just got accepted to do research (proteins and cancer) at Oxford and I keep in touch with Mark Beneke a forensic genius in Germany and I also dated a doll of a nuerophysiologist who is in the Netherlands teaching in a University and we keep in touch weekly.

The Tam Tam thing I did like I did with the conversations going back and forth to make it clear on what he wrote to me and how I had to break it down for me to understand it.

And people we should not have to walk on eggs with anyone. Anyone associated with thsi disease and trying to help should understand the mental implications and our fears and be a big enough person to talk on our level and if they truly want to help, not to be taken back by our comments but to have a kind and understanding heart. That again, is just my opinion.

I understand the sensitivity of the truly brilliant but they also need to understand the fear based reality fo the truly infirmed.

Later!

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Postby C3 » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:55 pm

Its a pleasure to hear You think,

Alloy I mentioned to indicate the resistance of the combination cyano with trypanosoma.
Both are extremely difficult to eradicate organisms.
Cyano may respond with amfotericine B, sometimes amikacine.
Trypanosoma is also sensible for amfotericine B.
But more input has been objectified.
Hence alloy, like combination more strong than its base.

The problem with support is the fact that this type element is already longer around and if studied as causative agent,
must account for a multiple of novel like disease.

Basically this type infectious agent is a money maker because of its occult character.
Without doubt it will start to raise questions about the sincerity and objectivity of the phrase" scientist have said"

The FASEB Journal, november 2005 Vol 19 no 13, mentions the secrecy of CDC and NIH over the last years.

facts are facts:

Biological weapons and secrecy (WC 2300)
by: Jeanne Guillemin
MIT Security Studies Program, Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA

Its on the web!

This type man made infectious agent may not be in public space, its simply illegitimate and a case for criminal investigation.
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Postby C3 » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:02 pm

FASEB J. -- Table of Contents (19 [13])
Jeanne Guillemin: Biological weapons and secrecy (WC 2300) FASEB J. 2005 19:
1763-1765. [Full Text] [PDF]. FASEB Milestones:. Alec D. Bangham: Liposomes and ...
http://www.fasebj.org/content/vol19/issue13/ - Similar pages
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Postby Linn » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:14 pm

"How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these".

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Postby Linn » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:19 pm

Last edited by Linn on Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Cilla » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:52 pm

Hi all,
If you are thinking of using the law, you have to understand it, a stipulation which would be applicable to its criminal and its civil domains.
Apart from anything else, invoking the law can be very expensive. It is also, by its nature, (in cases such as this), extremely adversarial. I do not think that going out on a limb, hoping that those accused will somehow be shown up by defending themselves is the best strategy, and I do not know if any lawyer indeed advised this approach. I'd be surprised if they did, but who knows?
It seems to me that substantive evidence would be required before any possible legal case would even be possible. Even at the preliminary stage, where documents are legally sought (by discovery or recovery), the pursuer or plaintiff's counsel must be quite specific. They may not go out on a limb, or on any sort of 'fishing expedition', in the vague hope that something helpful will be unearthed.
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Postby Linn » Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:44 pm

I think I have explained similar things in my posts only in simple lay terms
a mutated or new bacteria/virus and/or fungas
transmitted by unknown parasite.
If this was bio-engineered or not do you think it will ever come out?
I dont think soooooooooooooooo

and if someone (TamTam) knows more than they are saying and is suggesting something that will help
be more open
have you tried this on yourself?
do you personaly suffer from said disease?
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Postby Linn » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:24 am

Hey
London
its interesting that you mentioned smallpox
I took care of an elderly woman who had survived smallpox.
It was around the same time I came down with this disease.
Although I identify my initial contact with being by the pond and getting "bit" by something,
its strange that this surviver of smallpox was troubled by an agonizing itch that she said was
going to send her out of her mind. When I could not see anything on her.
She has since died without ever getting relief. I wish I had known then that vinegar works so well.
I keep telling all of you about it. Has any one tried it yet?
I was immunized for small pox though.
well I dont know if you will see this if you are traveling.
let me know
And hello to all
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Postby givemeabreak » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:48 am

Linn,
Yes a number of people have used vinegar topically, internally, for cleaning etc. I'm glad you found it for yourself.

The ACV seems to have the best results.

I don't know if it's a PH thing or it's strong antifungal properties.

http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar.html

There are a couple of more general support forums for this disease that you might want to visit for history, remedies, and these types of queries.

If you haven't found them already, that is.
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Postby Linn » Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:25 am

thanx
acv more expensive though
I really use a lot! lol
I want to help other sufferers in any way I can
Some people never thought of something as simple as vinegar
I didnt
I got this tip from a fellow morgellons person. After trying everything else you could imagine
hey some have mentioned copper and with vinegar and a few other things we could make a good battery.
lol (just trying to be on a light note for a change)
we are all so tired and stressed from this

I was just researching fungus:

http://bama.ua.edu/~nsfpeet/

I love frogs
have noticed frogs are missing for a long time
the spring peepers just are not there any more

the enviroment is freaking out
and we are getting MOLDY!

OMG I better get go to bed
getting punchy and un-scientific
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Postby yyz » Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:27 am

Linn,
Please go back on this thread to page 25 or so. TamTam was interviewing me there. Go with your gut feeling and your best memories on when you think you first contracted this. This was also the first question my ID doc just this last Friday asked me. Swimming, fishing, hunting, and playing in, near, on, or around, ponds, streams, and lakes is seemingly very relevant. Makes sense if we are talking about a protothecosis-like disease.

givemeabreak,
You're pretty cool when you aren't so angry. I hope you can stick around.

London,
I have no idea if smallpox is related. I have wondered that in the past, but havn't researched that for over 2 years. Will have to look more.

Everyone,
Great posts from what I read so far. Will re-read tomorrow.

Thanks,
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