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Postby ukguy » Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:20 am

I'll echo exactly what Skytroll said

Linn and Befour: please stick with us.

Your contributions are invaluable because they raise awareness of
what is being discussed here. You have people here you can trust.

Please, if you need to ask a question of anyone, use the PM function.

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Tam. Please explain your post. Thank you.

Postby RANDY » Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:41 am

Hi all,

I am back from work.

I hope that no one thinks that I expect Tam to reveal his/her horoscope sign, place of birth, work address, home address and telephone number. I do not. I would just like to know if he/she has a degree in any subject and if he/she is working in the capacity of his/her degree.

Alloy: A mixture composed of two elements, one being a metal.
I have proof that the fibers are made of Titanium, Carbon, and most of the first 22 Elements of the periodic table that are metals.

Emissions: From where? Are we talking Chemtrails..I theory I am not too swift on, which is my opinion.

If strains get numbers..what number is this strain?


If Tam is responsible for this disease and he is playing riddles with us hoping the smartest of us all will figure it all out...that upsets me.

If Tam states something and I do not understand what he is stating or we do not understand what he is stating, then I am not afraid to ask and I would expect to be answered out of common courtesy. Otherwise I would consider Tam rude.

If he created this or knows about it somehow and is dropping hints...we need to pick them up. I would prefer direct info but if hints is how he works,,,ok.

If he is just a regular person with this disease struggling like the rest of us then stop acting like you are playing superior person and please come down to our level and explain what you are doing and maybe we could get people to help. Also call Schwartz..you have nothing to hide..IF you ahve nothing to hide, that is.

Quorum sensing magnet: Here is what I found with a simple search.

Quorum sensing is the ability of bacteria to communicate and coordinate behavior via signaling molecules. These molecules basically provide bacteria a way to know its population density.

Bacteria that use quorum sensing produce and secrete certain signaling compounds (called autoinducers or pheromones), one example of which are N-acyl homoserine lactones (AHL). These bacteria also have a receptor that can specifically detect the AHL (inducer). When the inducer binds the receptor, it activates transcription of certain genes, including those for inducer synthesis. One bacterium detecting its own secreated AHL is not very likely. Then the detected AHL belongs to another bacterium.

How we as magents to this Quorun sensing fits into making sense has escaped me....someone smarter than me, please explain it to me as Tam wrote inhis post to me.

"Fit to keep in Primates"..kind of an insult to us homosapiens being called primates.

So what he is saying si that this thing has been created to be placed into Primates..than you for the description of man....and that although it causes havoc with our systems it was put there on purpose for a reason.

That is what I got from that one.

Body CBL: Gotta look back at the post to see how that was used.

Trypanosoma:The genus Trypanosoma is large and diverse. It includes several species that infect wild and domesticated animals in Africa, particularly hoofed animals, and humans. Most of the African trypanosomes are transmitted by vectors (the one exception is a sexually transmitted disease of horses), and the most common vector is the tsetse fly (Glossina sp.). The species that cause human African trypanosomiasis ("sleeping sickness") also infect wild animals and can be transmitted from these animals to humans (zoonotic infections). As their names imply, most African trypanosomes are restricted to Africa, although a few species have been imported into South America (view the geographic distribution).

Also Tam, and I am not being mean spirited here, I jsut speak my mind without hodling back and I do not ever mean to offend. Now with that stated, it appears that yoru first language may not be English, I own a translation agency http://translatethisdocument.com and I speak and write to linguists all day long, but your verse appears more to be like that of SETH and other channels I know. Just for a heads up on where or who you may be.

Anyways.....I am going to look over your post to me and try and make sense of it. Please clarify the questions I have asked.

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Postby RANDY » Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:07 am

Ok people hold on to your hats. This is what Tam the alien is saying..no joke intended.

There have been emission throughout our time as far back as 25 and 17 years ago that have been placed into humans, knowing that it would not destroy them but would cuase them tobe uncomfortable in their bodies.

This alloy (Comprised of a metal, fungal type Blue-Green algae and parasite) is comprised of an ovum ( egg) that reproduces and once you are struck with this disease you are a magnet to this MOTHER for placing her littl metal/funal.parsitic eggs into you.

It is a weakened strain fit to keep in primates..as we are referred to..an ovum capable of being fertilized.

It is now part of us and us is part of it..kind of a TOKRA iif you ever watched STARGATE.

What Tam is saying is that we have been invaded by an alien life form which is now part of who we are.

Ok..maybe I am being dramatic here..but it is man or alien made.

Oocyet: A female germ cell in the process of developement. The oocyte is produced by an ovary by an ancestral cell called oogonium and gives rise to the ovum( egg) which can be fertilized.

Go over what he/she/it posted to me. Take it apart and then put it back together. This is what he is saying.

Welcome to the support group for all of us invaded by aliens willing to live in symbiosis with us.

Anyone got some comments on this one? Love to hear it.

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Postby RANDY » Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:30 am

Maybe a cure is possible but as earlier stated, quite probably only with last resort medication.
But no protocol is present(...)

If you would get this medication it would not be without risk, simply because it would be experimental treatment and because of inherent toxic properties (e.g amphotericine B)




I notice you try to find a connection with relatively known species.
But all is strain depending (more than one strain can be around)

Basically a cyanobacterium....
This observation is consistent with what KTVU earlier has reported.

" that they find algae"

Indeed a cyanobacterium like body (CBL)

Cyanobacteria are photosynthetic microorganisms that contain chlorophyll. Formerly considered blue-green algae, but actually closely related to bacteria, cyanobacteria are of special importance in the balance of nature. Cyanobacteria were the earliest oxygen-producing organisms on Earth (remnants of cyanobacteria have been found in fossils dating back 2.5 billion years) and were responsible for converting Earth's non-oxygen atmosphere to oxygen. Cyanobacteria are found in water and soil and can tolerate great ranges in salinity and temperature. Some species of cyanobacteria convert atmospheric nitrogen to compounds of nitrogen used by plants. Other species of cyanobacteria (such as the one shown here) are grown commercially as a protein-rich human food supplement.



but with parasitic like properties (trypanosoma like)

Trypanosoma:The genus Trypanosoma is large and diverse. It includes several species that infect wild and domesticated animals in Africa, particularly hoofed animals, and humans. Most of the African trypanosomes are transmitted by vectors (the one exception is a sexually transmitted disease of horses), and the most common vector is the tsetse fly (Glossina sp.). The species that cause human African trypanosomiasis ("sleeping sickness") also infect wild animals and can be transmitted from these animals to humans (zoonotic infections). As their names imply, most African trypanosomes are restricted to Africa, although a few species have been imported into South America (view the geographic distribution).




Hence oocyte like.

Oocyte: A female germ cell in the process of development. The oocyte is produced in the ovary by an ancestral cell called an oogonium and gives rise to the ovum (the egg) which can be fertilized.


If you fuse a sheep with human characteristic can the sheep
be found in court? Some sheep or cow do produce a human factor!

What you suffer from is an alloy,

Alloy: A mixture composed of two elements, one being a metal.
I have proof that the fibers are made of Titanium, Carbon, and most of the first 22 Elements of the periodic table that are metals.

a concoction of a multitude characteristic.

This alloy is on the verge of acceptation. ( favorable acception)

This is maybe what you could call "a weakened strain fit to keep in primates"

A primate is any member of the biological order Primates, the group that contains all lemurs, monkeys, apes, and humans. The English singular primate is a back-formation from the Latin name Primates, which itself was the plural of the Latin primas ("one of the first, excellent, noble"). Colin Groves lists about 350 species of primates in Primate Taxonomy.

Although, not weak enough to wreck health, family life or career.

( So it is being accepted and being made part of our system)

Facts are facts.

Indeed several emissions (discharges from where?) must have taken place about 17 to 25 years ago.
Around 2000 another. ( How does Tam know this factoid?)

If you have partially recovered from one infection does not mean another will pass your door.
The opposite is true, in fact you have become a magnet.
A quorum sensing magnet.

Quorum sensing is the ability of bacteria to communicate and coordinate behavior via signaling molecules. These molecules basically provide bacteria a way to know its population density.

Bacteria that use quorum sensing produce and secrete certain signaling compounds (called autoinducers or pheromones), one example of which are N-acyl homoserine lactones (AHL). These bacteria also have a receptor that can specifically detect the AHL (inducer). When the inducer binds the receptor, it activates transcription of certain genes, including those for inducer synthesis. One bacterium detecting its own secreated AHL is not very likely. Then the detected AHL belongs to another bacterium. .


Primary pathogen are primary but today all is comfortably brought back
to a so called host pathogen interaction.

(From where is once was and went, it will return)

Strains get a number and no Institute will ever become activist.
( So it will NEVER get a number)


To mention the facts is like to ridicule your future. (This is the reason it will never get a number)

Industry determines research budget.

Only court! U.S court. Its the only cure, mention the facts! (And be committed to a mental institution)

Tam darling, you will not even give your real name and you want us to take this to a real court in the USA? Honestly, is this what you are stating we should do?)


Ok..as most of you can tell I am dyslexic. Sorry for the backwards spelling at times.

I am off to bed. Have a good night and sorry for the spam type messages, three in a row,


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Postby Skytroll » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:45 pm

I do believe that the primate connection says it all. Humans are 2 genes(chromosomes) away from being called primates.
The cyano and trypanasoma-like are two ways that can incorporate and continue the propagation of the the zygote (stem cell) of primates. Done in the embryo stage. In other words, proteins in monkeys, sheep, cow, have been incorporated into us. No alien. Alien in the sense that it is alien to humans.

Do you get the picture? You take those two genes of certain chromosomes and proteins and through use of adult skin cell, embryo stem cell, mammal skin cell and put in humans. Now, the delivery system probably today is chemtrails. Back when it could have been put in vaccines as a beginning, a seed. We somehow have the seed and it is part of our skin cells now.

This is where evolutionist have become geneticists, in the most evil way possible. At the back of all evolution is the idea that man and primate, man and sheep, man and cow are no different. With the studies of complementary proteins from Drosophila, c. Elegans, mice, yeast, this could be made possible, yeast, fungi, algae, bacteria, all with its own new taxa.

To fit the UNIVERSAL TREE OF LIFE. Because evo devos cannot prove we are miracles, made in an image, then they will and have found a way to make it happen. I will not give up this until scientists come around full circle and tell me that with proof found in the ruins, I surely came from a primate. My ancestors climbed trees, would swing through the vines.

What is a controlled population called. We are the sheep, we are the monkeys, the experiments.

Right under my nose and in the most obtruse manner dogs and monkeys were being experimented on in my community under the name of Northern Biomedical Research. No name on building, but know of 2 people who worked there as janitors, and cleaned up the evidence, not knowing what they were dealing with.

Scientist who worked on this no longer in area and neither is business.

Will do further checking on validity of company and affiliation with genome center, university and govt.

There is more to this story.

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Postby Skytroll » Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:40 pm

Hello and a belated good morning to everyone,


I did some more researching on this issue.

From, http://www.aaas.org/spp/sfrl/projects/stem/report.pdf

"The science of stem cells dates to mid 1960s, and many papers have been published on the isolation and laboratory manipulation of stem cells from animal models. While these models are imperfect, they are accepted in the scientific community as good initial predictions of what occurs in human beings"

Note words: isolation, manipulation, imperfect and initial predictions, models

Sums it up? Now, for actual papers.

Come on folks.......lets get the scoop.

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Postby London » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:16 pm

and to Big man " gimmeabreak",

maybe for a cure they / you should try to remember this:

( I think it's eating you up inside that the fact is you're probably a Dr. or scientist
and we are figuring it out before you) but, try to remember what I'm going to tell you here:

Immediate early genes turn on the early genes, you make DNA replication, make more virus, and ultimately the cell will die. Results in DNA replication, virus production, and death of the host cell.


Yours sincerely breakman,

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Postby London » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:56 pm

Dear givemeabreak,

I never said I'm without emotions. could you please exlain that?

I directly put underneath my quote yesterday to Randy regarding a cure:
that maybe they are waiting for more of us to get infected until they release the cure i.e., more money.

I certainly was not trying to scare anyone and hence I went back and apologized.
and what is so funny about me saying you are probably a Dr. I would consider that a compliment ( at least if you were one of the ones that are
not in denial and submission to the damn government) yet you think that is funny? I don't get it.

Also you have said you've done a lot to help people with this disease- I think you said you have done more than most? Well, would you share that with us here?

Now today you did say something important. Why don't you drop your
a-hole like facade and please join us. I would welcome that.

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Postby Linn » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:02 am

Hello everyone
there certainly is a wealth of information posted here
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!
I had to go back and read TamTams post as they seem to be the most intreging to everyone.

I havent heard much about MODE of transmission.
Personaly I know I contacted it when some form of whatever burrowed into my skin when I was weeding in tall grass by a pond (actually an old quarry) I felt the pinch as it went in. Perhaps this is some mite or nematode that was carrying a new unknown virus or bacterium?
I was negative for Lymes although I am going to get tested again to be sure.
I don,t know about copper or sulpher or garlic or tea tree oil. But, I know vinegar has a detrimental effect on this as well as relief for the itch.
Vinegar can be harmful to plants and other organisms. pH wise as well as burn them. I use it full strength all over my body even your hair and face (be carefull around eyes) And It will sting at first. Do not wash it off, use it EVERY time you shower once a day and in between for itch. Because if you dont itch you wont scratch and then the Doctors cant say you are causing the lesions by your scatching. It does not totaly get rid of the mogellons just controls it.
So when I see marks appear on my skin I know I didnt cause them by scatching.

To the biologists in this forum look at what kinds of organisms would be affected by vinegar and not bleach, alchohol, lice treatment, tick and flea treatments, ammonia and all kinds of prescribed antibiotic and antifungal creams. This is all the stuff I tried before the vinegar treatment. Nothing worked except vinegar.

I am going to try to find an article I read somewhere a while back. Does anyone know the one I am talking about?about a Doctor in China who has similar symptoms. I cant remember where i read it. who believes zinc may help . I take that every day.
Just my two cents folks
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Postby RANDY » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:03 am

SKY,

The cyano and trypanasoma-like are two ways that can incorporate and continue the propagation of the the zygote (stem cell) of primates

You stated but we all know that even skin cells of a close relative most likely get rejected even with a close match. If this theory is to go forward..we must assume that this mutates accordingly to everyones DNA and therfore no rejection occurs.

Everyone:

BTW: I am not picking ON Tam , I am just picking his/her brain. I would love for him/her to call me and to call Schwartz.
We could speed up the process with weekly conference calls between those able to help us due to their credentials. I know some really brilliant researchers in other fields that could kibbitz and talk to others about this. Right now I amil them posts that go over my head.

I am still unclear of the meaning that something 25 years ago and 17 years ago and then again in 2000 got into us somehow..WOULD LOVE THAT EXPLAINED and someway for some reason ( ALSO WOULD LOVE THAT EXPLAINED) and that it is a fungal/bacterial/parasitic/metallic concotion able to NOT be rejected by the human body but actually able to procreate via ovum and become symbiotic with us and if ya got the metal signal you are able to be picked up for future inplants.
(WHY AND WHO WOULD AND WHY AGAIN?)

PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS ONE TO ME SO IT MAKES SENSE. I said ALIEN cuz it sure sounds like a science fiction movie to me.

Jill...long time no see.......Tam does sound like SETH or a channel....my guess is that he is Italian by his phrasing. I would also love to know why the cloak and dagger routine. If he is a high up in science and wants to help without letting anyone know he is helping, I say thanks.If not, I am lsot at the cloak and dagger and honestly worried about it too. My problem, no one elses.

Please everyone here..I am direct and I do not add too many flowers to my words, but I am so appreciative of any help while also being suspicious of the reason for the ID secret. I use my name and my telephone number which is unlisted and is for everyone to see. I find it funny when people hide and are afraid to give out stuff when we are trying to beat the clock and figure out something so much bigger then any one person in this group. But I also can understand people being paranoid or not wanting their name associated with this. I just am an open book.

So, we have an alloy (metal) combo of a bacteria hooked as partners to a algae type of fungus riding side by side with a parasitic procreating momma, sharing our bodies not enough to hurt us but just enough to take over most of our body and we got it by an unknown emission coming from no one knows where and now we are magnets for it in the future when future emission from who knows where happens again for a reason no one knows either..

Am I getting this? Honest..Anyone got a better explanation in simple dummy human talk? I am serious about having this explained in simple talk.

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Clearing up the TAM/RANDY post

Postby RANDY » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:25 am

Tam Wrote: Maybe a cure is possible but as earlier stated, quite probably only with last resort medication. But no protocol is present(...)

If you would get this medication it would not be without risk, simply because it would be experimental treatment and because of inherent toxic properties (e.g amphotericine B)

Randy states: Show me the meds!

Tam wrote: I notice you try to find a connection with relatively known species. But all is strain depending (more than one strain can be around)

Basically a cyanobacterium....
This observation is consistent with what KTVU earlier has reported.

" that they find algae"

Indeed a cyanobacterium like body (CBL)

Randy looked up the word and found: Cyanobacteria are photosynthetic microorganisms that contain chlorophyll. Formerly considered blue-green algae, but actually closely related to bacteria, cyanobacteria are of special importance in the balance of nature. Cyanobacteria were the earliest oxygen-producing organisms on Earth (remnants of cyanobacteria have been found in fossils dating back 2.5 billion years) and were responsible for converting Earth's non-oxygen atmosphere to oxygen. Cyanobacteria are found in water and soil and can tolerate great ranges in salinity and temperature. Some species of cyanobacteria convert atmospheric nitrogen to compounds of nitrogen used by plants. Other species of cyanobacteria (such as the one shown here) are grown commercially as a protein-rich human food supplement.

Tam continued: but with parasitic like properties (trypanosoma like)

Randy looked up that word too: Trypanosoma:The genus Trypanosoma is large and diverse. It includes several species that infect wild and domesticated animals in Africa, particularly hoofed animals, and humans. Most of the African trypanosomes are transmitted by vectors (the one exception is a sexually transmitted disease of horses), and the most common vector is the tsetse fly (Glossina sp.). The species that cause human African trypanosomiasis ("sleeping sickness") also infect wild animals and can be transmitted from these animals to humans (zoonotic infections). As their names imply, most African trypanosomes are restricted to Africa, although a few species have been imported into South America (view the geographic distribution).


Tam wrote: Hence oocyte like.

Another Randy look up:
Oocyte: A female germ cell in the process of development. The oocyte is produced in the ovary by an ancestral cell called an oogonium and gives rise to the ovum (the egg) which can be fertilized.

Tam wrote: If you fuse a sheep with human characteristic can the sheep
be found in court? Some sheep or cow do produce a human factor! What you suffer from is an alloy,

Randy looks up Alloy:
Alloy: A mixture composed of two elements, one being a metal.
I have proof that the fibers are made of Titanium, Carbon, and most of the first 22 Elements of the periodic table that are metals.

Tam writes: a concoction of a multitude characteristic.

Tam Writes: This alloy is on the verge of acceptation.

Randy writes: Being accepted full time in our bodies to be aprt of us forever?

Tam writes: This is maybe what you could call "a weakened strain fit to keep in primates"

Randy looks up Primate cuz she got insulted when she first read it:

A primate is any member of the biological order Primates, the group that contains all lemurs, monkeys, apes, and humans. The English singular primate is a back-formation from the Latin name Primates, which itself was the plural of the Latin primas ("one of the first, excellent, noble"). Colin Groves lists about 350 species of primates in Primate Taxonomy.

Tam wrote: Although, not weak enough to wreck health, family life or career.

Randy writes: Oh no! it has destroyed most of my health, career and family life but it does get better with time. So it is being accepted and being made part of our system.

Tam writes: Facts are facts. Indeed several emissions

Randy asks: Discharges from where?

Tam continues: must have taken place about 17 to 25 years ago.
Around 2000 another.


Randy asks: How does Tam know this factoid?

Tam writes: If you have partially recovered from one infection does not mean another will pass your door. The opposite is true, in fact you have become a magnet. A quorum sensing magnet.

Randy looks that one up too:
Quorum sensing is the ability of bacteria to communicate and coordinate behavior via signaling molecules. These molecules basically provide bacteria a way to know its population density.

Bacteria that use quorum sensing produce and secrete certain signaling compounds (called autoinducers or pheromones), one example of which are N-acyl homoserine lactones (AHL). These bacteria also have a receptor that can specifically detect the AHL (inducer). When the inducer binds the receptor, it activates transcription of certain genes, including those for inducer synthesis. One bacterium detecting its own secreated AHL is not very likely. Then the detected AHL belongs to another bacterium. .


Tam writes; Primary pathogen are primary but today all is comfortably brought back to a so called host pathogen interaction.

Randy writes: From where is once was and went, it will return

Tam writes: Strains get a number and no Institute will ever become activist.

Randy thinks: So it will NEVER get a number.


Tam writes: To mention the facts is like to ridicule your future.

Randy realizes Tams position: This is the reason it will never get a number and Tam will not reveal his name.

Tam confirms: Industry determines research budget. Only court! U.S court. Its the only cure, mention the facts!

Randy writes: And be committed to a mental institution

I hope this clears up my last post of three which just rambeled.
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