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Postby RANDY » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:44 pm

ALSO Schwartz does not claim a cure. He is an honest, brilliant man who goes against the tide and does what he feels is right even if it means losing his license to practice medicine. He keeps searching for a cure as we all are only he can do it from a better view point then those without his medical experience. He tried the bacterial route and the parasitic route and he keeps changing his treatment cuz most things do work a little but he IS looking to find the right combination to get rid of this and he IS also looking for a test to define it. And he DOES make his findings public and he keeps no secrets. He is a true scientist not after the fame and fortune but after the cure. And he is willing to talk to everyone but no one will talk to him. Finding a cure or defining what this is is risky and takes time and making lots of errors during the quest but he is not afraid to fail and try again and he is not so pompous and to say he is 100% right or to not try due to risk of failure or to keep secrets from other scientist. Cloak and dagger secrets in science means that you do not have a clue and that you do not want anyone to find out that you do not have a clue, or that you are looking for a brass ring at the expense of sick people. he is honest and forthcoming with all his information.

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Postby yyz » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:46 pm

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Well... you have no more proof of recovery as any one else does of discovery do you?

If you don't want to subscibe to TamTam, London, me, or anyone else for that matter, then don't.

But do yourself a favor. Offer something. You don't get something for nothing. You will lose your own credibility if you keep jumping in here angry at the way the thread is developing whilst offering no contribution of your own. This thread or it's posts don't owe you anything. I know I don't.

I will let you in on a little secret. I don't have proof either. But what I do know is that 2 years ago I had a 10x17mm extraction removed from the back of my neck. This extraction at the time, was unidentifiable. It was nothing that I had ever seen before. My doctor was stumped as well. When I saw the video the first time, I was shocked. The tanned chitin specimen in the video was vividly identical to my extraction. Of course that is what I say. No, that is what I know. I know what I saw. Why don't I have proof? Because the lab here bungled the pathology, disposed of the sample, told me they didn't know what it was, then sent me a bill.

That is why I believe TamTam. Simple. Very simple for me. But I have made that choice on my own. I would hate to think that someone would suppress his video and his posts for any reason. If they had, I would not know what I know now. I sometimes think of that discovery as at least a small miracle for me. Because frankly, I was stumped up until that point. I want people to see that video. I hope that a doctor or scientist will see it and a light will turn on. Yet another miracle I suppose, but that would be great. Because discovery is the first step. For me, that was discovery. No where else have I seen that specimen before.

I will always stand up for free speech and the free flow of ideas. If you want to stand up for the innocent, that is fine. But I have to ask, what is your advice to them? Beware of everything? Nothing?



Randy,

I am sorry to hear of your suffering. You don't sound too innocent either, but unfortunately, rather experienced with what you are going through. I too was in remission from '94 to about '97. Very few symtoms then. At the time, I really felt cured. Man, was I wrong.

It seems it takes one to know one.

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Postby RANDY » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:57 pm

Thank you XYZ. I wish we had a magic bullet. I have, after almost 4 years of crying and be obsessive with my hand held microscope and not having insurance and spending all my savings on doctors that had me in tears when leaving the office
(I am a female BTW) and still wanted me to pay for the office visit and having cousins that are doctors and some family memebers and freinds reject and ignore me and not being able to wear short sleeves in the summer in 90 degree heat and humidity have found life again.

The largest chunk of wisdom I can give anyone is to carry on with your life knowing you have a long term illness that is under ivestigation by some pretty smart people and that because of who PROBABLY created it that you should not expect to get too much attention or any medical professional to believe you unless theyare very special and secure in who they are and who they work for if connected to a hopsital and to live your life. Do not stop it. I exercise every day but the first month of doing that I cried every night I was in such pain and so tired.

Live your life 90% and research this 10% and not the other way around. That would be my advice. Believe me, I want a cure as bad as the next guy but I am a realist and experienced realist.

Sorry for the typos....I am back to working and I gotta jet to work. NO time for spell check.

Love to all, hope to all,

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Postby RANDY » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:04 pm

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Postby C3 » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:28 pm

Maybe a cure is possible but as earlier stated, quite probably only with last resort medication.
But no protocol is present(...)

If you would get this medication it would not be without risk, simply because it would be experimental treatment and because of inherent toxic properties (e.g amphotericine B)

I notice you try to find a connection with relatively known species.
But all is strain depending (more than one strain can be around)

Basically a cyanobacterium....
This observation is consistent with what KTVU earlier has reported.

" that they find algae"

Indeed a cyanobacterium like body (CBL)
but with parasitic like properties (trypanosoma like)
Hence oocyte like.

If you fuse a sheep with human characteristic can the sheep
be found in court? Some sheep or cow do produce a human factor!

What you suffer from is an alloy,
a concoction of a multitude characteristic.

This alloy is on the verge of acceptation.
This is maybe what you could call "a weakened strain fit to keep in primates"

Although, not weak enough to wreck health, family life or career.
Facts are facts.

Indeed several emissions must have taken place about 17 to 25 years ago.
Around 2000 another.

If you have partially recovered from one infection does not mean another will pass your door.
The opposite is true, in fact you have become a magnet.
A quorum sensing magnet.

Primary pathogen are primary but today all is comfortably brought back
to a so called host pathogen interaction.

Strains get a number and no Institute will ever become activist.
To mention the facts is like to ridicule your future.
Industry determines research budget.

Only court!
U.S court.
Its the only cure,
mention the facts!
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Postby givemeabreak » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:32 pm

"Well... you have no more proof of recovery as any one else does of discovery do you? "

Only the people that say the have recovered and not relapsed.

As far as my own credibility, I don't worry about that because there's never been a problem there. Nor has my credibility ever been impeached by anyone.

However, there have been credibility problems with a lot of other individuals.

My advice to everyone is beware of everything until they can REASONABLY say what they are investigating is credible.

So you are right on the money there.

As far as Schwartz not saying he can cure people. Bull.

He wrote me he had a 100% success rate, at one time.

I just received another correspondence from someone that spoke with him, recently, that said he told her he could cure her.

I don't think he should quit working on the problem. He obviously shouldn't treat patients if he loses his license. But it has been said, on inferred, on many occasions he had the cure.

I don't know if he does or not, I'm just clarifying what has been said.

But this isn't really about Schwartz.

"Only court!
U.S court.
Its the only cure,
mention the facts!"

Hey, go for it Tam. Can I call you Tam, since your are our close friend? When you get some facts, I'm sure you'll be successful.. Good Luck!

I'll leave you guys with this, but I will jump in and post a rebuttle to "there is no cure" as I have time.

Post what you want, so will I.

Have a nice day.
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Postby RANDY » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:12 pm

Tam,

Danka dear.

I have to go to work and an hour late but I will review your note.

What alloy??..I have proof this thing contains metals but so does the human body but this has titanium body does not or shoudl not hold titanium..should be expelled. Being held by the fibers in us..not a good thing. This I know.

Quorum sensing magent...will look that one up..nice grouping of words but needs defining..that is more poetic than science.

Host Pathogen Interaction..back to that.


IF strains get numbers what number is this since you obviously were in on the creation of it and are trying to help us now..just my take. Would love that number. Can not go to US courts without it as you know.

FIT TO KEEP IN PRIMATES......hummmmmm...love that one. Have not gotten a cold in years!!!! FIT.......primates......Army guys and girls.....HUmmmmmmm

Trypanosoma need to look that up
Body CBL ..need to look that one up too.

Name the last resort meds PLEASE. I am wiling to try them if you know what they are, please divuldge.

Emissions..hummmm from where ..how distributed...when..who...so many questios with that tossed to the wind statement.

Host pathogen interactin......well yep......of course. Need not be stated, really. aren't most diseases???

So answer what you can.I am not being snotty here...just my way....funding is everything..I know Elias through a friend ( NIH) he will not even talk to me about this.

If you are afraid of exposure or feeling guilty woudl love info to act on. Got physics and science buddies at MIT, CAL Tech, Oxford, Germany and Netherlands.

Give me something they can help me dig into.

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Postby ukguy » Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:43 am

Hi Randy

You asked about the 'alloy' TamTam mentioned.

I believe TamTam uses 'alloy' to describe a 'mixture'. i.e. An alloy is the
result of a combination of metals. The mixture (or alloy) is the result of the combination of our bodies and this 'bacterium'.

An earlier post by TamTam explains this:

Like a cube (a micro organism)
of sugar (its protein make up)
that has dispersed into a cup of coffee! (your body)
and now represents the quality of the substance
(e.g your skin condition)


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Postby Barz » Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:15 am

Tam Tam,

Should we expect to see further video documentation from you? If so, when? If not, why?
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Postby ukguy » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:00 am

Regarding TamTam / C3's posts and to anyone
arriving here with a degree of scepticism:

I'm a family guy. I run my own business. I'm happy.

For several years I've been trying to find the a reason
for the things I've been experiencing. I've looked into
scabies, lice, mites, collembola and went round in circles
because nothing explained everything I was experiencing.

I found http://www.morgellons.org and I must admit I dismissed
what I read because deep down I didn't want to believe it.

I subsequently found this thread and while still very sceptical I read
with an open mind.

There is ALOT of information presented here, in (at the time of writing)
47 pages.

I would say to anyone reading this thread who doubts the validity
of TamTam / C3's posts to first read the information presented at
http://www.morgellons.org.

Now watch the news report on KTVU:

http://www.ktvu.com/health/4170085/detail.html
(video link on the left)

People have reported that they have found what seem like parts
of insects come from lesions on their body and/or their pores.

Now read this thread (about1958.html), start to finish with an open mind.

Please don't discount TamTam/C3's posts just yet because
as much as I'd like to do the same, I'm faced with a reality
I must now live with.

Out of everything I've read over the last few years, the information
presented by TamTam/C3 is closest to what I'm experiencing.

We can all speculate as to how much TamTam/C3 is involved
in this. He is doing what he can for his own reasons and we
should be thankful he posts here.

If my mother had presented me with the facts I now have
I would not have believed her. That is the first battle we face.

Regards
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Postby yyz » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:46 am

TamTam,

Your last video said more would be up-coming on the trypanosoma element. You also said that element was macroscopic.

Please give us another video with those images. We need something to show the scientist and layman alike. The video needs to link in-vitro to in-vivo in a way as to provoke suspicion and revoke reasonable doubt.

In the meantime, I would encourage all to look for the tanned chitin-like pattern in their own skin, rash, and/or lesions. Use oils, infra-red, ultra-violet, enhanced photography, whatever you can think of. Find your smoking gun.


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Postby yyz » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:47 am

UkGuy,

Well put!

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