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Morgellons...AKA The Skin Fiber Disease...Terra Incognita!

Postby CliffMickelson » Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:07 pm

Greetings:

I read with a great deal of interest the exchange that occurred here on the board concerning what is known and what is not known about Morgellons, aka the Skin Fiber Disease.

There is a great deal of confusion surrounding this emergent plague.

This is quite understandable.

The affliction exhibits proclivities and charactoristics unlike any known prior to this time.

It is highly resistant to most forms of accepted treatment.

It can collectively survive extended applications of all petrol based products, including such poisons as MEK and acetone.

Sulpher has some effect but is not definitive.

Placed in 71% alchohol does not kill it, however, 90% solution vexes it to no end.

It may be coded to "learn" from chemical attacks and to adapt.

It is for this reason that I have described it in past articles as being
"Borg-like."

The parasite does not so much "consume" its host as it "replaces" its host.

It "layers" itself into the victim and though easily located in higher concentrations, it is found throughout the entire skin surface.

Vaseline or Vicks Vapo Rub can cause it to briefly partially emerge from pores and folicles.

Initially, (as well as all through its tenure) It locates itself first and formost in the hair follicles of its victims. It can often be seen at first, growing side by side with the original occupant of the location. However, it soon kills its partner and then takes its place as sole occupant.

The creature is a master of disguise. It takes a practiced eye to detect it in this stage.


I have documented 5 stages or metamorphic levels of the organisim.

It is possible that there exists at least two other primary stages.

As it gains an established foothold it begins to multiply profusely.

Higher concentrations of the creature in its nematomorphic "worm-like" stage produce skin lesions and a hard "callus-like" protective shield that many victims as well as researchers believe is skin. This is partially wrong and partially correct. It is not "callus" in the classic sense, but is a highly entwined form of the stage 4 creature itself mixed with a secretion of amazing tenacity, durability, and flexibility. It is anchored into the skin of the host with a series of hooklike appendages that extend downward from the underside of the "callus" at a slightly curved angle.

It can be removed, but only with the greatest pertenacity and a very liberal dosing of 90% rubbing alcohol. The entire callus is rarely if ever successfully removed, but what is removed is portions of it that usually contain a nematomorph embedded in secretion. Since the callus consists of hundreds, (if not thousands) of such organisims, the best one may hope for is a rear guard defensive effect.

The source of the creature is a mystery, however it is known to be vectored in at least a half a dozen ways. One of the most controversial yet easily provable methods being used to vector this plague is cotton.

The nematomorph closely resembles a single strand of cotton thread.

The naked eye cannot tell the difference. However a practiced eye can detect the presence of the parasite in the cotton matrix.

The most common location I have documented as a vector for the parasite is the everyday cotton swab. It is ubiquitous in this environment. It is also found in other cotton products as well and it is quite likely that cotton has been serving as the main source of infection in recent years.

I have written a great deal on this connection and will not go into it at this point due to time limitations. For those who find such Orwellian nightmares to be difficult, I must say that intially, I too was equally as pole-axed.

I urge you to investigate my statements for yourself. Draw your own conclusions based on your own observations. Don't rely on me or anyone else to create your reality on this point. I am confident that the facts will speak for themselves.

There is much more I should like to describe concerning this unnatural creature but I have other obligations presently. I hope to be able to return shortly and further describe the rather unnerving discoveries that I have made in the last two years concerning this unique monster.

Regards:

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Tiny Bugs Wreak Havoc-collembola infestation

Postby Michelle » Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:28 am

Canalon wrote:One word about what forum and Gaia pacha said:

Bullshit.

It's just a mix of scientific word put together, and without meaning. I do not know if this fiber disease is real or completly psychosomatic, but one thing is for sure, the complete nonsense that this 2 posters have put in this thread does nothing to add any credibility to this disease.

Patrick


http://www.headlice.org/news/2005/augus ... _havoc.htm

This is what is actually happening to people suffering from the so-called morgellons/ fiber disease.
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Collembola found in skin scrapings

Postby Notnutz » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:24 am

http://www.headlice.org/news/2004/pr071204.htm

http://www.headlice.org/news/2004/delusory.htm



Abstract - Twenty individuals diagnosed with delusory parasitosis participated in a single site clinical study under the auspices of the National Pediculosis Association (NPA) and the Oklahoma State Department of Health. The objective of this study was to determine if there were any common factors in skin scrapings collected from this population. These individuals, whose symptoms were originally attributed to lice or scabies, were part of a larger group reporting symptoms of stinging/biting and/or crawling to the NPA. Multiple skin scrapings from each person were microscopically examined. Any and all fields of view that appeared incongruous to normal human skin were digitally photographed. When the photographic images were initially evaluated, no common factor was identified. However, more extensive scrutiny using imaging software revealed evidence of Collembola in 18 of the 20 participants.
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may be a coinfection

Postby southcity » Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:04 pm

take a look at this clip go to http://www.nondelusional.com/video%20clips.htm then right click on "it doesnt like water" and choose "save as".

Anyone here ever see and can identify this thing(fuzzball). doesnt match up with the collembolla idea. this was shot at 10x mag real time.
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just saying it like it is

Postby Michelle » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:47 pm

southcity wrote:take a look at this clip go to http://www.nondelusional.com/video%20clips.htm then right click on "it doesnt like water" and choose "save as".

Anyone here ever see and can identify this thing(fuzzball). doesnt match up with the collembolla idea. this was shot at 10x mag real time.



The problem here is too many people have had way too much time to sit around and over-think this condition.---not their fault---the medical and scientific communities are to blame.
Sufferers have had to try to sort this thing out for themselves, and as a result this skin condition has been attributed to almost everything from "chemtrails" to bio-warfare to "alien origins".
What people need to do is go back to the beginning: What were you first diagnosed with? majority of people were diagnosed at first with scabies or lice----then what happened when those treatments failed?---delusional parasitosis--psycho-neuro excoriations--stress--etc.
Look at the symptoms of DOP, then look at the physical symptoms listed on the morgellons site. Then go to the NPA study--(a published, scientific study, btw) and look at the symptoms described by the patients in the study: Biting/stinging, crawling, non-healing lesions etc. They all match.
I think that almost everyone initially attributed their symptoms to some sort of parasitosis---their first instinct was that they were infested with bugs. The first instinct is usually right, and the NPA has proved that.
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Fiber Disease, Photos

Postby GregV » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:11 pm

Hi Sabrina and all,
I just stumbled upon this Websight awhile ago. I have this Disease, and have also many photo images, which to the best of my knowledge all of the images came from my skin problems, either in the bath, sink, etc. from shaving, bathing, etc. with a screen in the drains. A few were from a daughter and a son, but they don't seem to be infected like I was. As I get better they have had no problems.
A few of the photos were found on the bathroom floor, after sweeping it as I entered, also some from the bedsheets, upon awaking.
I have tried NOT to post images of things which are not from this Disease, however if there is one or two items which are not from an organism, then I do beg your pardon.
I am not a biologist, nor a medical researcher, but a Motorcycle Technician.
Here is my WebLink, I named MorgellonsUSA because I wanted others to not be ashamed of their problem,

http://www.morgellonsusa.com

that at least in this country, after being pushed aside, and down in the gutter to fend for ourselves away from the Medical Community, that there are others like you out there who have dealt with many of the same things.
Tired of not being believed, I had to find proof instead of stories.
Perhaps some of us have had hallucinations, from brain infection, I don't know? But this bears out the fact that this is a real problem.
I am going back to UCSD Medical Center today to see the Infectous Disease Specialist in San Diege, so I have to go now.
I am very glad to find this Group, of people who actually are trained in the field that you are, who can approach this logically and not emotionally.

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to michelle

Postby southcity » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:27 pm

soory to say That this may still not be the case see this link. http://www.collembola.org/publicat/sidney.htm checklist of collembolla. I wrote to the authors of this study and here's his reply.

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For general and objective background info, feel free to visit our
webpage on the subject
http:///www.collembola.org/publicat/sidney.htm

Note that the Collembola specimen (1 specimen!) reported in
http://www.cdfound.to.it/HTML/ecto_col.htm
is a case of sample contamination (see for discussion in webpage above).

There is no positive proof of Collembola infesting people.
Advice: synchronise with your physician to do a test for Lyme disease.
It has been shown that many people suffering from badly curing skin
lesions are infected by Lyme bacteria. This has to be ruled out first.

Kind regards,

Frans
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regarding the NPA study

Postby southcity » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:38 pm

quote from above link.



Altschuler, D.Z. et al. (2004:87-95) U.S.A.:
"Twenty individuals diagnosed with delusory parasitosis participated in a single site clinical study under the auspices of the National Pediculosis Association (NPA) and the Oklahoma State Department of Health. The objective of this study was to determine if there were any common factors in skin scrapings collected from this population. These individuals, whose symptoms were originally attributed to lice or scabies, were part of a larger group reporting symptoms of stinging/biting and/or crawling to the NPA. Multiple skin scrapings from each person were microscopically examined. Any and all fields of view that appeared incongruous to normal human skin were digitally photographed. When the photographic images were initially evaluated, no common factor was identified. However, more extensive scrutiny using imaging software revealed evidence of Collembola in 18 of the 20 participants."
"The images were reviewed by entomologists and the presence of Collembola verified and identified as representative of the families Isotomidae and Entomobryidae."
"It is possible Collembola found in lesions are opportunistic and that fungal infections or allergic reactions to pollen, fungi, spores or other organisms may contribute to or be responsible for the symptoms these individuals experience." "Collembola do not need to be human parasites in order to be present in the skin scrapings."
Note: The in the study participating entomologists have identified the Collembola based only on the digitally enhanced images of the skin scrapings; no specimens have been deposited in collection for further reference.
All the images presented in the paper, except the enhanced version of figure 2, do not appear to be from living or recently dead specimens or body parts broken off such but specimens in advanced states of decay. Comparing the images with Collembola from Canadian and Burmese Cretaceous amber where much decay had occurred in many specimens, as well as with thousands of pitfall trap specimens in various states of decay, it is obvious with some security that the specimens shown in the photographs, if they are Collembola, are badly decayed. Therefore, since the specimens were freshly taken from new scrapings, "The finding of images from 18 of the 20 symptomatic study participants supports their contention that they have something crawling on or under their skin." is not supported, unless the other pictures are far better. Under the assumption that the best pictures were chosen for the article, this seems highly unlikely. If Collembola were crawling then the specimens should be part of living specimens.
It may well be evidence that at past times Collembola were involved in a crawling sensation, such as caused by allergic reactions as described by Pescott (1942:68-69).
The authors should provide a skin sample including a collembolan specimen to prove their point. The case is considered unproven unless an animal is provided.
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Southcity on Collembola in Romanian woman's skin

Postby Notnutz » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:17 pm

"Note that the Collembola specimen (1 specimen!) reported in
http://www.cdfound.to.it/HTML/ecto_col.htm
is a case of sample contamination (see for discussion in webpage above)."


Interesting observation by Mr. Janssens. Was he present during the biopsy taken from the Romanian woman's skin? There's no indication he was there. However, the sample was taken by a surgeon, witnessed by others in attendance during the surgical procedure, and was identified down to species by Mr. Janssens himself according to his website.

Southcity it's interesting that you're so certain Collembola aren't a part of this parasitic skin disease when you've obviously read all the reports at Mr. Janssens website.

I'll remind you too that the NPA paper plainly states Collembola don't have to be "parasites" to have been found in the skin of the study participants.

Many of the people with this disease have reported various "bugs" in their skin, and they were often identified by people qualified to make that determination.

I think you're just full of yourself and your mind isn't open to possibilities outside your own field of visiion.
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Why are posts in such disorder?

Postby Notnutz » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:20 pm

Look at the dates and times of the posts.

Why aren't they in strict order date and time wise? Somebody scrambling them?

It's really difficult to follow the discussion when they're so out of order.
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I am certain of nothing

Postby southcity » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:50 pm

I am certain of nothing concerning this illness, the collembolla theory simply does not explain all the symptoms related to it. By the way if the collembola study is correct, it should be pointed out that there still is NO current treatment options available.

As far as me being full of myself, jeez I cant even tell you how much I would rather never having had to think about any of this. So please continue adding to this thread with the thought provoking arguements and kindly do not attack those who may refute or debunk them. My only agenda is to figure out how to rid myself of this scourge. If the npa study has led you understand how to get rid of this problem, then please share your info.
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