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Gender divison in two opposites is greatest mistake of manki

Postby surgeongirl » Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:42 pm

“Scientists have somehow missed definitions of gender in human beings,” states Dr. Makarand Fulzele. Insights gained from years of practice as surgeon makes him wonder if indeed we have overlooked facts staring in our face. Nature has a tendency to hide many secrets but at the same time it provides enough clues to unravel its mysteries. Dr. Fulzele picks up loose threads from life to stitch together the theory that man is an extension of woman in his new book, “Man Is the Extension of Woman: Know the Ultimate Truth about Yourself” (published by iUniverse). Dr. Fulzele’s book explores similarities between men and women against the backdrop of their genetic differences, physical variations, and emotional and intellectual dissimilarities. Dr. Fulzele who is a successful surgeon further explains in his book: The main hypothesis I discuss in this book is that, if a woman lives long enough she will be converted into a man physically. A similar thing can also be stated about man. It is wrong to categorize humankind into two genders as it implicates that they are extremely dissimilar and physically opposite to each other. I try to prove that man and woman are just two different stages of one developmental process. And physically they are very similar. The ideas presented may sound unconventional but Dr. Fulzele implores readers to consider his point of view with an open mind. “Your world will not change if you do not agree with me. But if you agree with me, how does it change your world? If more people agree with you and me, how does it change our world? The possibilities are limitless.” About the Author Dr. Makarand Fulzele is a successful surgeon and medical superintendent of a government hospital in Mumbai. He enjoys tapping into hidden and mysterious regions of the human mind, where many strange thoughts occur and get ignored. He is also the author of “Rainbow,” a book similarly dedicated to the spirit of light.
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Postby surgeongirl » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:35 pm

Dr. Makarand Fulzele is a physician and surgeon and a medical superintendent of a government hospital in Mumbai, India who in his studies in anatomy and later as a surgeon became obsessed with an idea he wishes us to share. Perhaps some will dismiss his theories and perceptions a obtuse, but read the manner in which he arrives at the idea that man and woman are integrally related anatomically, sexually, philosophically, emotionally and perhaps some new avenues for perception of self and the variations we observe among our fellow human beings will make more sense.
`I am going to make two statements which are interconnected; Man has to go through a stage of womanhood before he achieves his masculinity: if a woman lives long enough she will be converted into a man.' The differences between man and woman are divided into five categories: Genetic, Anatomical, Intellectual, Psychological (emotional), and Behavior patterns. `We will discuss these differences in detail and we will realize that ultimately there is no difference at all. We will awaken to the possibility of man and woman being part of the same process in different time zones.' Twenty-three pairs of chromosomes are present in all of us out of us: twenty-two pairs are autosomes that are similar in both man and woman. Out of twenty-three pairs, twenty-two pairs are similar irrespective of gender. If these autosomes are similar then they should lead to similar results in man as well as woman. These autosomes are mainly concerned with development of human body that's common in both - man and woman. The twenty-third pair is called sex chromosomes. This is at the root of all differences between man and woman: The pair of sex chromosomes in man is called X and Y, the count for woman is called X and X. In simple words, Male and female are same in the beginning then they simultaneously develop into a female and male. The `X' stops here and a lady remains a lady, but `Y pulls himself further into a male. Till puberty man and woman are same if man lives longer, he can get converted into woman. If woman lives longer, she can get matured into man.
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Postby Darby » Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:03 pm

If your knowledge of genetics ends in about 1926, this MIGHT make sense...
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Postby surgeongirl » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:35 am

Darby wrote:If your knowledge of genetics ends in about 1926, this MIGHT make sense...
that's sharp sense of humor may be generating out of deep knowledge. He further states regarding anatomy like this

Examples: External genitalia - labia fuse to scrotum and the clitoris extends to become a penis. The ovaries and testicles are basically same. But one is exposed to certain temperature for a particular period to grow into ovaries. Whereas testicles are cooled within time to maintain their integrity. To put it into scientific language, all humans are females to start with. Some develop further to become male. Man or woman is born. At puberty fully grown man or woman develops libido. At menopause, both female and male) estrogen or testosterone resources are finished and physical changes towards opposite gender start appearing. `So our life also runs in circle. We start at birth and then from infancy, become young. Then a full-grown woman or man is developed. One lifetime is consumed. The menopause is reached towards the end of the life. At this juncture man or woman is getting converted into the opposite sex. Before the changes are too prominent to be ignored, the man or woman is dead. They go to the grave with the secret!'
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Postby JackBean » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:41 am

so how many males changing into females and females changing into males have you seen already?
http://www.biolib.cz/en/main/

Cis or trans? That's what matters.
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Postby surgeongirl » Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:22 pm

that is a very intellectual (to the point) question,
I have not seen many or none at all where complete transformation is seen. But as a doctor I can not avoid the temptation to mention certain partial changes. there is a old age gynecomastia in males , behavior changes in both males and female, breast regression , pms,hair loss on scalp , hirsuitism , vulval fusion in female. Though medical intervention at earlier stage has changed the pattern to a considerable level.
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Postby Darby » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:02 am

But what's the point here? It shouldn't be a surprise that something as complex as expression of gender features sometimes fall somewhere in between. And it's not just humans - this is not unusual in other organisms. That's why I made the earlier comment - there's nothing particularly new here. It's an issue that was somewhat hidden, but I've seen fairly broad discussion of this for at least 20 years.
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some food for thoughts

Postby surgeongirl » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:16 pm

I am not trained in genetics but what intrigued me was this equation by author

But look at the man. He is something more. He is X and Y. That means, he is essentially an ‘X ’plus something extra. What do I mean by that! Man is already a woman that is ‘X’, plus something extra. Does that mean first step towards manhood is womanhood? Now let’s talk in mathematical language. Here is the equation, Man = 22 autosomes + X + Y Woman= 22 autosomes + X + X= 22 autsomes + X (by logic not by mathematics). . . Man= (22 autosomes + X) + Y= Woman + Y (by mathematics, simply) So man is everything that woman is, plus something extra. Now the extra thing is not qualitatively different, but quantitatively. Hence Y here must be somewhat like X + 1, X+2 or X+ 3 or something like that. It would be ultimately proven that woman can potentially grow into man. Similarly man can reduce to woman, if he loses some part of ‘Y’.
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Postby Darby » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:51 pm

I feel some justification of misogyny at work here. There are some "extra" genes at work, but they are mostly receptors that alter development in a fetus and control reproduction. The "quantity" is true, but fairly pointless.
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some clues from animal kingdom

Postby surgeongirl » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:44 pm

"Some species, such as some snails, practice sex change: adults start out male, then become female (See also sex reversal). In tropical clown fish, the dominant individual in a group becomes female while the other ones are male, and bluehead wrasses (Thalassoma bifasciatum) are the reverse. In the marine worm (Bonellia viridis), larvae become males if they make physical contact with a female, and females if they end up on the bare sea floor. This is triggered by the presence of a chemical produced by the females, bonellin. Some species, however, have no sex-determination system. Hermaphrodites include the common earthworm and certain species of snails. A few species of fish, reptiles, and insects reproduce by parthenogenesis and are female altogether. There are some reptiles, such as the boa constrictor and komodo dragon that can reproduce sexually and asexually, depending if a mate is available"
If god has created animal kingdom and left some clue over there its our duty to unveil it(Dr, Makarand Fulzele)
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Re: Gender divison in two opposites is greatest mistake of manki

Postby surgeongirl » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:35 pm

men don't have menopause women have it , whats natures plan behind it?
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Re: Gender divison in two opposites is greatest mistake of manki

Postby surgeongirl » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:16 pm

x and y are not dissimilar . In fact they are so similar that y is called x with missing leg. If that is correct then there remain no difference in blue print . if blue print is same how can the structure erected on the basis of this can be different. Only difference must be in arrangement and for a capable mind that is no difference at all . so to say man is just the woman with clitoris enlarged as penis. Vagina stitched to be scrotum and ovaries dropped down from the tummy as testis........(ref-nman is the extension of woman)





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