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Postby kandarp shah » Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:01 pm

hi...
i concern about one thing ......that if virus is not living organisms why do we study them as a part of biology.??????????

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Postby sdekivit » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:21 pm

because they infect living organisms.
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Postby MrMistery » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:13 pm

We are not yet sure that viruses are non-living. In the present they are situated at the border between living and non-living. Also, as it was said, they interact directly with the living world and are thus, in a way, a part of it
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the really interesting thing is....

Postby ccljboy » Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:42 pm

ok forget why bot lets think about what they do.....
they inject genetic material into cells, the cell then replicates the virus, but with current technology we can tamper with the genetic coding of the virus. thus with enough genetic knowledge we could engineer HELPFUL viral strains, or ones that cause cancer.
now that can give u a cold feeling deep down inside, cancer as a communicable disease
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Re: the really interesting thing is....

Postby canalon » Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:44 pm

ccljboy wrote:now that can give u a cold feeling deep down inside, cancer as a communicable disease


They exist already. The first one was discovered in 1910, even before virus were known. It is the chicken Sarcoma or Rous Sarcoma. 6 Viruses are known for human [Epstein-Barr Virus, Hepatits B and C viruses, papillomavirus,HHV8 (Kaposi sarcoma),HTLV].

But the question was why viruses were studied in biology, although not living strictly speaking. The answer being as it is said because they interact with living beings. And furthermore are depending on living organisms for their reproduction. So they do belong to biology who study life but also what is related to it (just like pharmacology is often considered as a part of biology although dealing with chemicals).

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Postby victor » Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:37 pm

Even though viruses still between the border of living and not-living things, they have discovered their familia, genus and species... :lol:
And, we study viruses in Biology because of the definition of the virus.
"Virus is the smallest infectius unit of the living thing"
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Postby MrMistery » Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:51 pm

No it is not. have you ever heard of viroids? How about prions? :wink:
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Postby victor » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:13 am

I've heard viroids...these things are just seemed like viruses but lacks some viruses characteristics...
Yup, they had determined it like Pox viridae (suffix -dae is used to ddetermine family) and adenovirus (suffix -virus is used to determine species)
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Postby chemistry_freako » Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:18 pm

Yup, they had determined it like Pox viridae (suffix -dae is used to ddetermine family) and adenovirus (suffix -virus is used to determine species)


Hmm dun quite get this sentence...=\

But well, gotta admit virology's pretty interesting - it's good to find out how the virus 'causes' u to be unwell! :D My fav. module back then haha XD
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Postby protozoan » Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:24 pm

I think they are living as they interact whith living world. And also why biology study them is...they reproduce as reproduce every living thing on the world - transcription, translation of genetic information, replication... that simply belongs under genetics, molecular biology and biochemistry. Or should they be studied by mineralogy for example? :roll: :wink:
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Postby MrMistery » Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:04 pm

@protozoan. We have a huge discussion about this. Check it out;)

@victor
What exactly is the name of the flu virus, for example?(genus, species..) :wink:
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Postby protozoan » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:10 pm

Ou key MrMistery I only directly answered the question why biology study viruses. I forgot to add qoute :( . By the way do you think something else?
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