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Postby tianlai » Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:34 pm

Philosophers could think that white horse is not a horse, but biologist couldn't think so.
“Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere.”Carl Sagan
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Postby mcar » Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:23 am

Reality is the present. But man isn't satisfied with the evidences from the past. What we are ought do today is the one that will shape our destiny. Yes, we have the freedom to go and choose the idea and way of living. But we have to remember that we can do nothing anymore about the past. For we were not there when it had all begun.
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Postby Jellybeans » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:43 pm

I believe that God created everything, and that everything evolved and shaped into what is suitable and best for it.

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The only reason of our existence is to rule over what God has created and to improve our lives and even our faith as well.
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Re: God vs Evolution

Postby Tim12 » Sun May 19, 2013 5:53 pm

Charles, what you were wrongly attributing to be Christ's words to this followers, was a parable he was telling his disciples about a hard master. Sheesh!
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Re: God vs Evolution

Postby Tim12 » Sun May 19, 2013 5:56 pm

My post seems to have been misplaced.
As I tried again, it was again misplaced to a completely different subject.
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Postby JackBean » Mon May 20, 2013 9:48 am

to different subject or different page?
http://www.biolib.cz/en/main/

Cis or trans? That's what matters.
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Postby hydr » Thu May 23, 2013 6:29 am

I Don't know that god doesn't exist, just being a science major I see all the evidence that points otherwise. maybe aliens created"GOD" who knows.
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Re: God vs Evolution

Postby thoffnagle » Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:54 pm

jeremiah_1990 wrote:I believe God created the universe and everything in it. And that evolution is an incorrect 'THEORY' made by the human race to neglect God. I want your argument about why you believe that human existence is a freak accident or if we were created for a purpose.


I didn't read through the thread but I hope that someone asked the following questions:

1 - What evidence do you have to support the existence of your god?

If you have no evidence for your god, then you have to go with another hypothesis. Darwin's Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection explains very well how life evolved, once it had already began. There are several hypotheses to explain how life began - admittedly, they all have flaws but they all follow the laws of physics and are, therefore, explainable. In fact, the entire process from Big Bang to humans (why are we always thought of as the epitome of life? It's a totally unsupportable view.) is explainable by the laws of physics. So,

2 - Why do you reject these explainable hypotheses?

Lastly, please learn the scientific definition for the word "theory"! If you're going to use it in a scientific context, you should know how to do so. Even the fundiots at Answers in Genesis know how to use it. If you are behind even AiG, then you really should catch up to the 20th, if not the 21st century!
"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution."
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Re: God vs Evolution

Postby RabbitPhilosopher » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:42 pm

jeremiah_1990 wrote:I believe God created the universe and everything in it. And that evolution is an incorrect 'THEORY' made by the human race to neglect God. I want your argument about why you believe that human existence is a freak accident or if we were created for a purpose.



Whether or not human existence is a freak accident evolution by natural selection IS a scientific theory that at present best explains biodiversity and it hasn't been shown to be incorrect. "God created the universe and everything in it" is not a scientific theory, it explains absolutely nothing.
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Re: God vs Evolution

Postby NMLevesque » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:24 pm

jeremiah_1990 wrote:I believe God created the universe and everything in it. And that evolution is an incorrect 'THEORY' made by the human race to neglect God. I want your argument about why you believe that human existence is a freak accident or if we were created for a purpose.


Which god? What or who created this god? And finally what evidence do you have to support this conclusion?

Side note: The theory of biological evolution does not preclude a person from believing in a god(s).

You presented a false dichotomy here, I don't think our existence is an accident nor that we were created for a purpose. There are plenty of other options to choose from, here's one:
We are the result of a naturalistic process in which life adapted to it's environment (climate, geography, flora, fauna, etc) and the selective pressures it imposed on the ancestors of our extant lineage, thus we are a direct result of the conditions of the Earth, more specifically east Africa a few hundred thousand years ago. Evolution is itself an observable fact corroborated by a comprehensive concordance of facts (independently verifiable observations) from a variety of fields which we've uncovered as a result of the best methodology we have for discerning the nature of reality (the scientific method). It is also something that has made accurate testable predictions, and which has yet to be falsified despite ample opportunities and attempts to do so. Simply put it is the best theory we have, and as a pragmatic and skeptical person, it is the most logical position to take.
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Postby supersapien » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:07 am

For all the people who say that religion and science can exist together and compliment each other, I would like to point out that, in science, things are accepted as a theory or fact when there is substantial evidence that is testable. The problem with God is that there is no evidence whatsoever that is testable and conclusive. It is always personal hallucinations that make someone feel and believe in God. So science and religion are incompatible.

You might, however, find some verses in scriptures that may relate to science but a number of them are totally against science, un-testable.

What I personally feel is that when people are not able to get answers to questions (regarding the nature, purpose of life, etc.), they tend to start believing in god, because it is the easy way out. Why not work to find the truth instead of just believing what scriptures say? Scriptures might just be some works of literature which we assume to be true.

I'm an atheist and that's because I understand science. Science asks us to question everything and I did and god seemed so improbable to me.
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