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The general theory of origin of life

Postby leniel » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:07 pm

How do you think, it is possible to create a "The general theory origin of life"?
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Re: The general theory of origin of life

Postby jonmoulton » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:08 pm

For that, comparative data would be useful. Once we've observed life that had its origins elsewhere, we'll be in a better position to formulate a general theory. For now I'm content to watch the proposal and vetting of theories presenting models of how life originated here.
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Re: The general theory of origin of life

Postby leniel » Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:36 pm

Now mankind has three main hypotheses for the origin of life:
1. Biogenesis. Extraterrestrial origin (panspermia)
2. Abiogenesis or spontaneous origin on Earth (self-replicating macromolecules under the influence of natural selection).
3. Special creation: religious explanations argue that life was created by God, or one of the intelligent Designer. wikibooks http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/General_Biology/Getting_Started/History_and_Origin_of_Life
In my opinion, mankind has enough knowledge to integrate them in "The general theory origin of life." And to make the clear and workable model.
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Postby JackBean » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:01 am

biogenesis/panspermia only shifts the problem further either in time or in place, but doesn't solve the problem where and how did life emerge
http://www.biolib.cz/en/main/

Cis or trans? That's what matters.
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Re: The general theory of origin of life

Postby leniel » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:38 am

Absolutely. Even the word of God can only initiate the process. Need the scheme and a model for the transformation of matter from nonliving to the living (DNA or RNA). In 2013 I will present for discussing the universal structural-energetic model of matrix type. The place and time can be anything, the main thing - fulfillment of a number of necessary conditions. The model was called "Universal" on multiple grounds. Perhaps, will be the first attempt to show the process of "revitalization" of substance on the molecular-energetic level.
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Re: The general theory of origin of life

Postby leniel » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:42 pm

jonmoulton wrote:For that, comparative data would be useful. Once we've observed life that had its origins elsewhere, we'll be in a better position to formulate a general theory. For now I'm content to watch the proposal and vetting of theories presenting models of how life originated here.

Model has already been done. She is beautiful in itself, in the nude. To represent her in the royal splendor, I write popular science book. Published in the current year.
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Postby leniel » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:50 pm

JackBean wrote:biogenesis/panspermia only shifts the problem further either in time or in place, but doesn't solve the problem where and how did life emerge

The book's title: "The origin of life and space. General theory and universal model." It shows where and how life begins.
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Postby EnricoPallazzo » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:36 pm

How about a little teaser?
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Re: The general theory of origin of life

Postby wildfunguy » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:00 pm

leniel wrote:Absolutely. Even the word of God can only initiate the process. Need the scheme and a model for the transformation of matter from nonliving to the living (DNA or RNA).

That's not how the theory of creationism works.
Anything we can make can also arise by accident when given enough "tries." Unlike us, God can do impossible things that would never happen by accident. No model needed.
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Re: The general theory of origin of life

Postby leniel » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:15 pm

wildfunguy wrote:
leniel wrote:Absolutely. Even the word of God can only initiate the process. Need the scheme and a model for the transformation of matter from nonliving to the living (DNA or RNA).

That's not how the theory of creationism works.
Anything we can make can also arise by accident when given enough "tries." Unlike us, God can do impossible things that would never happen by accident. No model needed.

"All is God and God is in all" - this is the greatest philosophical concept, which was created by mankind. From it originate almost all religions, and the concepts of creationism. Since the essence of the deployment of the world does not change from the speed with which it occurs, the period for the birth and spread of life has no value. God paints a picture of the material world via the events using assistants - mathematics and geometry. To implement the Plan, a technologies are important , which must build on the basic, fundamental things and designs. Most of the physical constants have been found, but has not yet been allocated mathematical apparatus and the used base of numbers, which are involved in the process their of birth. Equally important is the model showing the scheme and sequence going through all stages from conception to development and distribution. Proposed model does not contradict to teleonomical (informational) creationism - a Plan (Design) and Purpose, and reveals the mechanism to implement them at the molecular level.
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Postby leniel » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:29 pm

EnricoPallazzo wrote:How about a little teaser?

Sorry, I badly know English, to understand the meaning of jokes. If you can write in Russian - please, I'm at your disposal...
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Re: The general theory of origin of life

Postby leniel » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:39 pm

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