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hominoid vs hominid

Postby mcdull1016 » Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:18 am

What is the difference between hominoid and hominid?? They seems to be so similar ... and totally confuse me .. Please give me some good examples of each.

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Postby Dr.Stein » Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:51 am

Hominoid
Superfamily: Hominoidae: anthropoid apes and human beings

Hominid
Superfamily: Hominoidae
Familiy: Hominidae: modern man and extinct immediate ancestors of man
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Postby protozoan » Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:50 pm

Can i ask?...ok. Whats other falmilies of the superfamily hominoidea than family hominidae?

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Postby Silverbackman » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:20 pm

The three families within the Hominoid superfamily are;

Hominidae: modern man and extinct immediate ancestors of man

Pongidae: Great Apes including Gorillas, Orangutans, and Chimpazees (both bonobo and common chimp)

Hylobatidae: Gibbons/Simangs

I think this classification is a bit old, I don't think they use superfamily anymore. Classification by Cloin Groves put humans in the Great Ape subfamily and gibbons/siamangs in another subfamily.
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Postby Dr.Stein » Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:16 am

I use classification system from 2003. Is there any newer version? I am sorry I have not been in Zoology that much nowadays...
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Postby Silverbackman » Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:06 am

From 2003? Can you show me a link to the 2003 classification systemin this thread? If you cannot find a site then post the source on where you got the classifcation from and the date. Also if no internet site post the classification here of the apes if you can.
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Postby charles brough » Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:59 pm

hominid, hominoid. . . . I'm sure the distinctions have important use to specialists, but I think what is more important is how we think. The terms can be used to actually hide our evolution from our awareness. When referring to the chimp, for example, how many people speak of them as "other primates?" People don't do it because it would startle or even offend the religiously motivated. So, the awareness of how similar we are to the chimps is easily obscured and removed by a lot of impressive terms. When we make little compromises like that to avoid offense, they tend to add up and, in the end, we find "creationism" is riding their crest on to victory.

All the emphasis on "diversity" (something suppedly "good") and tolerance leads to a culture of placating and timorousness. Real science means standing on principle and not compromising.

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