Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

[sushil_yadav]

By stopping industry, you will kill all people (without any shooting).

When did I talk about stopping all industry........show me when?????.......show me where?????

Here is what I wrote in my post :

Food, clothing and shelter......these are the maximum number of things this planet can provide to humans.

A pure non-industrial society is not possible now because Industrialization has increased world population to 7 billion.......World population increased from 1 billion in 1800 to 7 billion in just about 200 years after industrialization.......In the absence of industrialization world population would have been only a small fraction of 7 billion today.

If we want to save the remaining environment we must minimize the things that are destroying environment.

At present we are destroying environment for Food, Clothing, Shelter plus Thousands of Industrial consumer goods and services.

We must eliminate the things that were added last to the list......which means Thousands of consumer goods and services, most of which have existed for only about 100 years out of Hundreds of Thousands of years of Total Human Existence on earth .........these have to be eliminated or minimized.

We are approaching Environmental Apocalypse.......The only way to save the remaining environment is by stopping Industrial Activity for production of consumer goods and services immediately........Industrial Activity must be limited to food, clothing and shelter.......and even in these three fields production and consumption must be kept to the minimum.

And how is stopping some industry going to kill all people?????.......How does stopping of industrial activity for production of consumer goods and services lead to killing of all people?????

If absence of industry could lead to killing of all people then you would not be existing today.......Your ancestors lived and survived in pre-industrial societies......If industry were essential for survival then how did all our ancestors survive in pre-industrial societies?????

[JackBean]

For example here:
Environment has been destroyed by Industrial Activity........Trying to save environment without stopping Industrial Activity is like

The difference between shooting and industry is that for industry is the pollution only side-effect, but with shooting the bad consequences are aim of it.
Thus, by improving industry we can eliminate the bad side-effects.

[sushil_yadav]

For example here:
Environment has been destroyed by Industrial Activity........Trying to save environment without stopping Industrial Activity is like

Which industrial activity am I referring to here??????

What led you to conclude I am referring to all industrial activity?????

Didn't you read the complete post?????

The post makes it very clear that I am referring to Industrial Activity for production of consumer goods and services........I am not referring to industrial activity for production of food, clothing and shelter.

[sushil_yadav]

The difference between shooting and industry is that for industry is the pollution only side-effect, but with shooting the bad consequences are aim of it.
Thus, by improving industry we can eliminate the bad side-effects.

This doesn't make any sense at all.......I think you are having some problem with english.

[sushil_yadav]

You're using argumental fallacy and long boring post to mislead people.

We need the industry to keep our current living and by stopping it, you would cause people decay. The industry is able to increase efficiency and lower pollution, even find new resources, so that we won't have to destroy the Earth. But if you stop it and stop the research, nothing of that will be possible and the past damage will not be possible to restore.

Who is misleading people......You or me????

You said industry lowers pollution........Industrial activity has produced billions of tonnes of metal waste, plastic waste, gaseous waste, chemical waste, eWaste and nuclear waste.......You calll this lowering of pollution????

Which pre-industrial society produced this much waste????


How does research save environment??????

Animal species sustained for millions of years and saved environment for millions of years......They did not do any research.

Hunter_Gatherer society destroyed very little environment [ compared to Industrial Society] for about a million years........They did not do any research.

Agrarian Society destroyed very little environment [ compared to Industrial Society] for about 10,000 years......They did not do any research.

[JackBean]

It's not me who has problem with English.
What I meant is that comparing industry and shooting makes no sense, because industry produces good with some bad side-effects, but shooting has only bad aim.

Do not put into my mouth what I didn't say. I said, that improving industry lowers produced pollution! For that reason is the research important, because it will help us to preserve the environment, while keeping our standard of living.

[JorgeLobo]

sushil is an ignorant child - why do you argue with him?