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Postby chemistry_freako » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:44 am

There was a case in Singapore this year too to do with a national serviceman complaining of knee pain and dying soon after but it was diagnosed as Acute Streptococcal Toxic Syndrome.
Any more news on this one???

Yea, any more news on this one? (emerging hemorrhagic virus?)
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Postby b_d_41501 » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:35 pm

That's what I first thought too. I've not heard much on the news though, but then again, this is the kind of thing they don't want the world knowing.
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Re: deadly virus causing death in less than 24 hours

Postby Dr.Stein » Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:56 am

edward wrote:...they only knew its some kind of a deadly virus...

First thing in my head... Are they entirely sure if that is really a virus? Or they just think it is a virus? This is a first and crucial step to further identification of that "UIO" (Unidentified Infecting Object :D)...
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Postby b_d_41501 » Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:48 pm

What else would it be? It has all of the characteristics of a virus.
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Postby MrMistery » Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:52 pm

It could be a bacterial or protozoar infection...
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Postby Dr.Stein » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:12 am

b_d_41501 wrote:What else would it be? It has all of the characteristics of a virus.

Hmm, could you tell me those, please? I mean how this UIO infects patients as a viral infection.
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Postby b_d_41501 » Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:27 am

Yes, I was being close minded there for a sec. It actually could be more than a virus. I guess that's just the first thing that pops into mind.
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Postby Abstract » Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:37 pm

I'm confused. Why do they necessarily think it was an infection? To me, it sounds as if the only symptoms were knee pain and red-blood cell destruction. No elevated white-blood cell count, no fever, no inflamed glands, no coughing or things of that nature. I mean, if it indeed were an organism that was causing this, it would have to be very poorly adapted, simply because if it kills that quickly, the chances of it being passed on to another host and therefore continuing the species are extremely low, especially if a lot of the main ways that an infection can be spread (coughing, sneezing, bleeding, etc.) seem to not be present.

That leads me to think that it is also possible that it could have been some form of chemical toxicity. Some sort of hemotoxin would certainly produce those symptoms.
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Postby Dr.Stein » Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:44 am

Whatever thing that causes this kind of disease, whether it is a pathogen, toxin, or another kind of xenobiotics, it comes from external environment. It means that our immune system will stimulate to respond it, soon or later.

We should know well the difference between infection and inflammation. We are exposed to a lot of kind xenobiotics everytime, but we never know if they already infect us until there is a common acute symptom, the inflammation. Symptoms can be specific depends on the nature of antigen, and the speed depends on the antigens (how 'clever' they are to hide from our immunosurveillance) and our immune system (how fast they can recognize the antigens). It can be rapid, for instance anaphylaxis, but can be very slow, for example leprosy.

IMO, it is an infection, whatever the thing is.
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