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DO NOT UNDERSTAND PRIMER DESIGNModerator: BioTeam
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DO NOT UNDERSTAND PRIMER DESIGNHi all,
I need help with primer design please. I want to design primers for Mus musculus GMCSF gene. I found it's cDNA but it's too long so I take a part of it where starts with the initiation codon ATG as follows: 1 ggtcagactg cccaggcagg gtgggaaagg cctttaaagc agcccgcagg tgggctgcca 61 gttcttggaa gggcttatta atgaaaaccc cccaagcctg acaacctggg ggaaggctca 121 ctggccccat gtatagctga taagggccag gagattccac aactcaggta gttcccccgc 181 ccccctggag ttctgtggtc accattaatc atttcctcta actgtgtata taagagctct 241 tttgcagtga gcccagtact cagagagaaa ggctaaggtc ctgaggagga tgtggctgca 301 gaatttactt ttcctgggca ttgtggtcta cagcctctca gcacccaccc gctcacccat 361 cactgtcacc cggccttgga agcatgtaga ggccatcaaa gaagccctga acctcctgga 421 tgacatgcct gtcacgttga atgaagaggt agaagtcgtc tctaacgagt tctccttcaa 481 gaagctaaca tgtgtgcaga cccgcctgaa gatattcgag cagggtctac ggggcaattt 541 caccaaactc aagggcgcct tgaacatgac agccagctac taccagacat actgcccccc 601 aactccggaa acggactgtg aaacacaagt taccacctat gcggatttca tagacagcct 661 taaaaccttt ctgactgata tcccctttga atgcaaaaaa ccaggccaaa aatgaggaag 721 cccaggccag ctctgaatcc agcttctcag actgctgctt ttgtgcctgc gtaatgagcc 781 aggaacttgg aatttctgcc ttaaagggac caagagatgt ggcacagcca cagttggaag 841 gcagtatagc cctctgaaaa cgctgactca gcttggacag cggaagacaa acgagagata 901 ttttctactg atagggacca ttatatttat ttatatattt atatttttta aatatttatt 961 tatttattta tttatttttg caactctatt tattgagaat gtcttaccag aataataaat 1021 tattaaaact ttt I designed these primers but have no idea if it is good or not. CAA GCATGC ACCATGTGGCTGCAGAATTTA (forward primer) CAA: for protecting my restriction site during PCR GCATGC: restriction site ACC: Kozak sequence CAA GGTACC TTACCTGGGCTTCCTCATTTT (reverse primer) I used pearlprimer,there it says for dimers: Forward vs. Forward: -4.81 kcal/mol (Is it much?) Forward vs. Reverse: -0.45 kcal/mol Reverse vs. Reverse: -1.57 kcal/mol My forward primer Tm is 60.78 My reverse primer Tm is: 59.79. But these Tm values are without restriction site,kozak sequence only ACCATGTGGCTGCAGAATTTA for forward and TTACCTGGGCTTCCTCATTTT for reverse. Should I calculate Tm with kozak, restriction site included again?? I will be grateful if someone help me please, it is very important for me Thank you
Re: DO NOT UNDERSTAND PRIMER DESIGNDon't anyone know primer design? Please I really need help to start my reseach project. It is my first time designing primer so I have no idea if I do the design right or not?
Kindly request you to give a hand
I would really like to know too! honestly there are so many ways and methods on web I found. The thing is maybe I dont have the courage to apply it without returning to an experianced person!
Will follow up the thread... AHH, Gravity! Such a cold cruel mistress.
Sorry I was not able to respond to your question earlier. Unfortunately, I just joined. Hopefully I still could provide some assistance.
There are several guidelines for designing primers for PCR or sequencing. (1) The primer length should range 18 to 22 bases. Your primers are 21 bases in length and should be okay. (2)50 to 60 percent GC content. Your primers have 43 percent GC content. However, since they are 21 bases in length, this should also be okay. (3) Should have a GC lock. 2 of 3 of the 3 prime bases should be G or C with the final 3 prime base G or C. The primers you have listed are AT rich along the 3 prime end. They could still work as many primers lacking the GC lock have before. But it is a guideline to remember in the future. Specifically for PCR forward and reverse primers, the Tm values should be within 4 degrees. I would recommend including the Kozak sequence and restriction site in the Tm values. Basically you have tailed 21 base length primers with these added sequences. During the first round of PCR, the additional bases will be included in the amplified product. Therefore, the Kozak sequence and restriction site will become part of the priming site. Hopefully you will find this information helpful at this late date. Doug B
Sorry, I forgot to add one thing. I reviewed the primer sequence for secondary structure. It appears as though the forward primer has a 5 base compliment to itself (CTGCA). This likely accounts for the higher potential of primer dimer. Probably not to big of a concern. The reverse primer actually has a 7 base compliment to the product sequence beginning at base 308. I think your primers are okay for both.
Doug B
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